Is It Your Fault I'm Fat? Congress Hears Debate - Page 2 - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

gov135 · 06-22-2003, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rogue49

Why should the government have to hold your hand,
and say "no, no, no....you know this is bad for you."

Cause we can't afford to support obese people in our health care system anymore.
We need to hold hands because one of the below applies:
1. The person is on Medicaid or Medicare
2. The person is uninsured (guess who pays then)
3. The person is fully insured. Guess what happens when someone with your same insurance has major medical bills? The cost of insurance for everyone else skyrockets.

In any of the above ways, we are diverting resources to a problem - the numerous health problems experienced by those who are obese.

I don't believe this is the correct solution, in the original thread. But someone needs to get it across to people that being overweight affects more than just you.

PatrickBateman · 07-09-2003, 11:15 PM

If you say that it is someone else's fault that you are fat and they did not surgically inject you with lard... shut the fuck up.

crfpilot · 09-03-2003, 04:51 PM

I'm fuggin pissed at McDonalds right now caus it cost me over $5 for a grilled chicken sandwich and diet coke when I could've got the sandwich, fries, and drink for $4.39+tax. Sure I could have bought the value meal and threw the fries in the trash but do you think that would really happen?

Now tell me again how the fast food industry has no effect on how people eat.

I wish they would stop marketing value meals and making special price breaks on combos. Just charge the same price for the sandwich, fries, and drink no matter how you order it.

MrFlux · 09-03-2003, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by crfpilot
I'm fuggin pissed at McDonalds right now caus it cost me over $5 for a grilled chicken sandwich and diet coke when I could've got the sandwich, fries, and drink for $4.39+tax. Sure I could have bought the value meal and threw the fries in the trash but do you think that would really happen?

Now tell me again how the fast food industry has no effect on how people eat.

I wish they would stop marketing value meals and making special price breaks on combos. Just charge the same price for the sandwich, fries, and drink no matter how you order it.

Nobody forced you to buy a grilled chicken sandwich from MacDonalds.

mydragonfido · 09-03-2003, 08:01 PM

As a overweight person I know I am the cause for my problems!! But because I am overweight I am suppose to be unhappy; I am not!! I do eat in moderation and do excerise!! I am a former Marine and know the right way!! However I am not going to kill myself try to fit in a size 3!! Far too many people are trying too hard to please other people!! I am not worried!! Labels on fast food may help but it is not a solution!! Label I will still eat it!! So will the rest of the world!! I personally do not care about living an extra 10yrs to make everyone happy!! I could die tomorrow in a car wreck and all those tofu burgers really did not help did they!!! Power to the BIG MAC!!

IC3 · 09-03-2003, 08:18 PM

Why the hell should a Fast Food Restaurant be responsible for your actions?

If they are to stupid to realize that McDonalds & all the rest of those So called restaurants are bad for you...Then they deserve what they get.

I eat at McDonalds once in awhile, And it usually tastes like shit...But it puts something in the stomach when I am in a rush, I also don't gain weight...At All...And if I did from eating that shitty food, I would not sue McDonalds like other people have in the past..........Hmmm....On second thought

crfpilot · 09-03-2003, 09:28 PM

My point is why does it cost less to get the fries? Why can't it be the value meal price minus the price of the fries? Can anyone answer that for me? Any exec's of a fast food company out there?

crfpilot · 09-03-2003, 09:30 PM

And I know nobody forced me to eat a grilled chicken sandwich from McD's but I felt like eating one, besides it's like 300 calories and 6g of fat, not too bad if you ask me.

Double D · 09-03-2003, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IC3

Why the hell should a Fast Food Restaurant be responsible for your actions?
If they are to stupid to realize that McDonalds & all the rest of those So called restaurants are bad for you...Then they deserve what they get.

I eat at McDonalds once in awhile, And it usually tastes like shit...But it puts something in the stomach when I am in a rush, I also don't gain weight...At All.

I'm assuming from the post's context that you are referring to your fellow posters, If so, please be respectful when making your point.

Also, are you implying that you are better than people who use McD's to as you say *put something in (their) stomach,* because you don't gain weight when you do, but they do gain weight?

DEI37 · 09-04-2003, 04:09 AM

I'm not a small person, but I try to do what I can to keep the weight off. Smaller portions of food, better food, and exercise as much as I can. I've gotten a little lazy on the last one, but I know my weight problem isn't the fast food industry's. I don't eat out a bunch, and usually it's Taco Bell or Subway. Occasionally a better restaraunt, but even then, that's maybe 3 times in two months...or less.

raeanna74 · 09-04-2003, 09:42 AM

I agree McDonalds and many other restaurants give us extra motivation to buy more food because it's a better value. It's sad but they only market what sells. If we didn't buy it they would have to find another marketing sceme.

I'm a fairly healthy size but at one time when I was 19 I was 35 lbs more than a healthy weight (not that skinny starved look weight either) and I lost it by making my own choice to eat right. I "cheat" often but in small portions and never call it cheating. I also eat things that are good for me and I cook without lots of extra butter, salt and sugar. I use those things but in moderation.

Suing someone else for our lack of self control is never a way to succeed. We have to take responsibility for our own actions.

07-09-2003, 11:15 PM	#42 (permalink)
PatrickBateman Upright Location: New York, NY American Gardens Building, Apt. 10I	If you say that it is someone else's fault that you are fat and they did not surgically inject you with lard... shut the fuck up. __________________ Another martini, Paul?

09-04-2003, 04:09 AM	#50 (permalink)
DEI37 Go faster! Location: Wisconsin	I'm not a small person, but I try to do what I can to keep the weight off. Smaller portions of food, better food, and exercise as much as I can. I've gotten a little lazy on the last one, but I know my weight problem isn't the fast food industry's. I don't eat out a bunch, and usually it's Taco Bell or Subway. Occasionally a better restaraunt, but even then, that's maybe 3 times in two months...or less. __________________ Generally speaking, if you were to get what you really deserve, you might be unpleasantly surprised.

09-04-2003, 09:42 AM	#51 (permalink)
raeanna74 I'm not a blonde! I'm knot! I'm knot! I'm knot! Location: Upper Michigan	I agree McDonalds and many other restaurants give us extra motivation to buy more food because it's a better value. It's sad but they only market what sells. If we didn't buy it they would have to find another marketing sceme. I'm a fairly healthy size but at one time when I was 19 I was 35 lbs more than a healthy weight (not that skinny starved look weight either) and I lost it by making my own choice to eat right. I "cheat" often but in small portions and never call it cheating. I also eat things that are good for me and I cook without lots of extra butter, salt and sugar. I use those things but in moderation. Suing someone else for our lack of self control is never a way to succeed. We have to take responsibility for our own actions. __________________ "Always learn the rules so that you can break them properly." Dalai Lama My Karma just ran over your Dogma.

09-03-2003, 04:51 PM	#43 (permalink)
crfpilot Punk In Drublic Location: So Cal	I'm fuggin pissed at McDonalds right now caus it cost me over $5 for a grilled chicken sandwich and diet coke when I could've got the sandwich, fries, and drink for $4.39+tax. Sure I could have bought the value meal and threw the fries in the trash but do you think that would really happen? Now tell me again how the fast food industry has no effect on how people eat. I wish they would stop marketing value meals and making special price breaks on combos. Just charge the same price for the sandwich, fries, and drink no matter how you order it.

09-03-2003, 08:01 PM	#45 (permalink)
mydragonfido Crazy Location: Louisiana	As a overweight person I know I am the cause for my problems!! But because I am overweight I am suppose to be unhappy; I am not!! I do eat in moderation and do excerise!! I am a former Marine and know the right way!! However I am not going to kill myself try to fit in a size 3!! Far too many people are trying too hard to please other people!! I am not worried!! Labels on fast food may help but it is not a solution!! Label I will still eat it!! So will the rest of the world!! I personally do not care about living an extra 10yrs to make everyone happy!! I could die tomorrow in a car wreck and all those tofu burgers really did not help did they!!! Power to the BIG MAC!!

09-03-2003, 08:18 PM	#46 (permalink)
IC3 Poison Location: Canada	Why the hell should a Fast Food Restaurant be responsible for your actions? If they are to stupid to realize that McDonalds & all the rest of those So called restaurants are bad for you...Then they deserve what they get. I eat at McDonalds once in awhile, And it usually tastes like shit...But it puts something in the stomach when I am in a rush, I also don't gain weight...At All...And if I did from eating that shitty food, I would not sue McDonalds like other people have in the past..........Hmmm....On second thought

09-03-2003, 09:28 PM	#47 (permalink)
crfpilot Punk In Drublic Location: So Cal	My point is why does it cost less to get the fries? Why can't it be the value meal price minus the price of the fries? Can anyone answer that for me? Any exec's of a fast food company out there?

09-03-2003, 09:30 PM	#48 (permalink)
crfpilot Punk In Drublic Location: So Cal	And I know nobody forced me to eat a grilled chicken sandwich from McD's but I felt like eating one, besides it's like 300 calories and 6g of fat, not too bad if you ask me.