The ugly side of selling lemonade - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

cchris · 06-18-2003, 09:40 PM

Permit me to sell without a permit for I am only six years old.

These "Authorities" need to have a good hard look at themselves.
Not to mention the F@#%ing neighbor.

LINK TO STORY

NAPLES, June 18, 2003 - A six-year-old girl was heartbroken when her small lemonade stand was put out of business because she didn’t have a temporary business permit. A neighbor called the police and her stand was shut down.

"Gotta get ready for the sale,” said Abagail.

Even though she’s only 6 years old, Abagail prepares for another day at work.

"We like making money at our lemonade stand. We want it to stay cold so they can have cold lemonade on hot days,” she said.

A young entrepreneur who does the cleaning even the advertising. And it is paying off.

"We are making lots of tips in our tip jar,” said Abagail.

But a few days ago, Abagail and her friends were put out of business by a neighbor.

"We didn't have a permit so she called the cops,” said Abagail.

The police arrived and shut her down.

"We had to take down our lemonade stand,” said Abagail.

Abagail did not have a temporary business permit, which is technically a city violation.

"So we had to do something else to play,” said Abagail.

"I was kind of shocked because I didn't know we needed a permit for 6 year old girls to sell lemonade,” said K.C. Shaw, Abagail’s mom.

According to the city, they have to act on a formal complaint.

"Normally we don't get involved in it but once we do get a formal request we must take action,” said Al Hogrefe of the city of Naples.

So Abagail’s mom went to the city code enforcement office with wallet in hand, prepared to buy a permit.

"$35 every single time for a single use,” said Shaw.

Not wanting to be sour, the city played Mr. Niceguy.

"No we did not charge her, no,” said Hogrefe.

They did finally get the permit.

"Basically a blank check to have as many lemonade stands as we can stand,” said Shaw.

So Abagail is back in business and learned laws can be tough, even for a six year old's lemonade stand.

Shaw said the police officers who shut down the stand felt terrible, but they had to do their job. One of the officers even bought a glass of lemonade from Abagail.

Phoenix · 06-18-2003, 09:46 PM

What kind of sour neighbor called the cops to shut down a 6 year old's lemonade stand?

BBtB · 06-18-2003, 10:01 PM

Eh. Can't blame the cops for this one. They were just doing their job. And was mentioned several times in the article they were reluctant to shut it down. She WAS technically breaking the law.

punx1325 · 06-18-2003, 10:43 PM

Yes, she was breaking the law...but shes 6!!! she is just having a little fun, yet some sour neighbor had to ruin. That's so cold....

schUsseln · 06-18-2003, 10:56 PM

In my head I imagine it's a neighbor who got in a pissing fight with one of the kids - and was like "I'll show you..."

If not, that sourpuss needs a hug or two.

spanky spangler · 06-18-2003, 11:20 PM

Guess the neighbour felt she would compete with their 'milk of human kindness' stand.

Lebell · 06-19-2003, 12:11 AM

I wonder what you make when life gives you lemons as neighbors?

MrFlux · 06-19-2003, 12:30 AM

Put them in the Juicermatic 5000

That's a pretty good story actually, shame on the neighbours for calling the police, but good on the council for giving them the permit for free, now the neighbours can't bother them anymore.

phredgreen · 06-19-2003, 01:06 AM

wow... this is really no suprise... i've lived next to/around asshole neighbors on and off my whole life... any excuse to be a pain in the ass and they'll happily take it.

as for me, its probably the worst you'll ever have, but i make it a point to always stop at lemonade stands and give the kids a buck or two... it's just being a good person.

cchris · 06-19-2003, 02:52 AM

Thanks for those comments phredgreen as the most basic things in life we can do are the ones that actually make a difference.

-Anders · 06-19-2003, 03:26 AM

You know, this is grotesque. Who on earth would call the police on a six year old girl for selling limonade?
I swear some people need to take a good look at themselves

Daval · 06-19-2003, 04:02 AM

I wish a pox on the neighbors.

Bill O'Rights · 06-19-2003, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by phredgreen
...as for me, its probably the worst you'll ever have, but i make it a point to always stop at lemonade stands and give the kids a buck or two... it's just being a good person.

Yeah, I do the same thing. These kids put in a lot of work on these things and it's such a small thing to do to make a kids day. And yeah...often the lemonade is just this side of battery acid.

As for the neighbor...sounds like a family feud kinda thing to me. Still no excuse for being this big of an asshole about it. Don't take it out on the kids.

Actually though, given as the cops were <b>forced</b> to take action on this...I don't think I'd want to be the one that made the complaint. Jaywalk...you're busted! Spit on the sidewalk...you're busted! You get the idea. Kinda makes me chuckle.

rockogre · 06-19-2003, 04:43 AM

Even I"M not that cranky.

platypus · 06-19-2003, 05:38 AM

Another part of Americana shot to hell by assholes.

I had stand when I was a kid. I still remember once when a big black sedan stopped and a guy in a suit got out. He bought a cup, handed me a dollar bill and said, "Keep the change, kid."

I repeat that gesture all time. I love to make a little kid's face light up by handing him a buck or two for a 25 cent cup of lemonade and saying, "Keep the change."

gov135 · 06-19-2003, 05:42 AM

I can certainly see why a permit would be required to operate a carnie-style food trailer or a hot dog stand.

I fail to see why the law would apply to Abagail. If ever a law needed to be amended, it should be here. If lawmakers were to just put a floor on the dollar amount, say five dollars a day, this would not be an issue.

krwlz · 06-19-2003, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by -Anders

I swear some people need to take a good look at themselves

They ought to take a look.... after I beat them with a stick, for fucking with 6 year olds! What the hell?

Personaly I never got a lemonafe stand, because I live in the middle of nowhere. But I did manage to make a few bucks helping the neighbors do stuff around the house, for which I am forever greatful. They probaly could have done it better and faster without me.

spectre · 06-19-2003, 05:57 AM

What kind of asshole calls the cops on a 6 year old with a over a lemonade stand? What a prick.

warrrreagl · 06-19-2003, 06:29 AM

Like phred and others, I go out of my way to stop at kids' lemonade stands everytime I see one.

I don't actually drink it, you understand (you don't know where those kids' hands have been), but I do give them the money.

Actually, when I think about it, the kids with the lemonade stands end up getting the tips that I don't leave in the restaurant. How's that for a big fat juicy rationalization?

hrdwareguy · 06-19-2003, 06:29 AM

Some people are just assholes.

Gortexfogg · 06-19-2003, 06:55 AM

That girl must live next to Mr. Wilson... no reasonable person would waste their own time to shut down a lemonade stand. It did say she was making a lot of tips. The neighbor may have been jealous or something and just tried to make the little girl miserable. At least the story has a happy ending.

YourNeverThere · 06-19-2003, 08:00 AM

man laws are stupid, thats my offical prognosis

livingitup101 · 06-19-2003, 08:04 AM

I wouldn't say it's the laws 'fault'. You need those types of laws to prevent vending going on anywhere and everywhere.

The issue here is obviously with the neighbor. Life's too short to be worried about 6 year olds selling lemonade.

troit · 06-19-2003, 10:40 AM

On a brighter side of a lemonade stand:

http://tfproject.org/tfp/showthread....threadid=12460

denim · 06-19-2003, 10:56 AM

Oh, I suspect that the police in that area will make sure the neighbor pays for this. After all, they know who called and what was said. AND they have the power.

merkerguitars · 06-19-2003, 10:59 AM

Thats one of those neighbors you just wanna punch them in the nose............

CSflim · 06-19-2003, 12:08 PM

Yeah, nobody can fault the cops on this one. Not much they can do if some pain in the ass neighbour makes a complaint about the local kids having some clean, safe and down right productive good fun! Some people have too much bloody time on their hands! Get a life!

I think its cool that they were given a permit for free though, that was a nice gesture by the city council. Makes for a happy ending, for a change! And the cop bought a glass of lemonade!

Stupid no good neighbours!

Atropos4 · 06-19-2003, 12:14 PM

poor kid....Funny thing is her parents probably know which neighbor called....We always did when someone called the police on us when me and alpha phi first got our house. That guy was such a jerk...thank-god his landlord evicted him..

yatzr · 06-19-2003, 08:42 PM

man, she gets shut down while the man show boy runs a beer stand.....just not right

joshibahn · 06-20-2003, 10:48 AM

geez, somebody splash the neighbor with some of that tasty lemonade and watch the bitch/asshole melt into the sidewalk. "I'm melting, I'm melting"...

The person was probably pissed that their Social Security check was late.....

Paper Clip · 06-20-2003, 11:50 AM

That neighbor is a looser!"Let's take up city funds in having our government chase down a little girl selling lemonade." Get a freekin' life! I know where my used up lemons would go!

Cynthetiq · 06-20-2003, 12:10 PM

what a dick

viveleroi0 · 06-20-2003, 04:28 PM

I recall doing that. My friend and I were the premier entrapaneurs... we sold several cups of Kool-Aide lemoade, to people at a local park. All of the money earned was 100% profit, as the supllies were free. ::grin::

06-18-2003, 09:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
cchris Junkie Location: Sydney	The ugly side of selling lemonade Permit me to sell without a permit for I am only six years old. These "Authorities" need to have a good hard look at themselves. Not to mention the F@#%ing neighbor. LINK TO STORY NAPLES, June 18, 2003 - A six-year-old girl was heartbroken when her small lemonade stand was put out of business because she didn’t have a temporary business permit. A neighbor called the police and her stand was shut down. "Gotta get ready for the sale,” said Abagail. Even though she’s only 6 years old, Abagail prepares for another day at work. "We like making money at our lemonade stand. We want it to stay cold so they can have cold lemonade on hot days,” she said. A young entrepreneur who does the cleaning even the advertising. And it is paying off. "We are making lots of tips in our tip jar,” said Abagail. But a few days ago, Abagail and her friends were put out of business by a neighbor. "We didn't have a permit so she called the cops,” said Abagail. The police arrived and shut her down. "We had to take down our lemonade stand,” said Abagail. Abagail did not have a temporary business permit, which is technically a city violation. "So we had to do something else to play,” said Abagail. "I was kind of shocked because I didn't know we needed a permit for 6 year old girls to sell lemonade,” said K.C. Shaw, Abagail’s mom. According to the city, they have to act on a formal complaint. "Normally we don't get involved in it but once we do get a formal request we must take action,” said Al Hogrefe of the city of Naples. So Abagail’s mom went to the city code enforcement office with wallet in hand, prepared to buy a permit. "$35 every single time for a single use,” said Shaw. Not wanting to be sour, the city played Mr. Niceguy. "No we did not charge her, no,” said Hogrefe. They did finally get the permit. "Basically a blank check to have as many lemonade stands as we can stand,” said Shaw. So Abagail is back in business and learned laws can be tough, even for a six year old's lemonade stand. Shaw said the police officers who shut down the stand felt terrible, but they had to do their job. One of the officers even bought a glass of lemonade from Abagail. __________________ There's a fine line between participation and mockery

06-18-2003, 10:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
BBtB ClerkMan! Location: Tulsa, Ok.	Eh. Can't blame the cops for this one. They were just doing their job. And was mentioned several times in the article they were reluctant to shut it down. She WAS technically breaking the law. __________________ Meridae'n once played "death" at a game of chess that lasted for over two years. He finally beat death in a best 34 out of 67 match. At that time he could ask for any one thing and he could wish for the hope of all mankind... he looked death right in the eye and said ... "I would like about three fiddy"

06-18-2003, 10:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
punx1325 Junkie Location: San Diego	Yes, she was breaking the law...but shes 6!!! she is just having a little fun, yet some sour neighbor had to ruin. That's so cold.... __________________ If something seems too good to be true, then it probably is....

06-18-2003, 10:56 PM	#5 (permalink)
schUsseln Upright Location: San Francisco	In my head I imagine it's a neighbor who got in a pissing fight with one of the kids - and was like "I'll show you..." If not, that sourpuss needs a hug or two. __________________ A moral point of view too often serves as a substitue for understanding in technological matters. -Marshal McLuhan

06-19-2003, 12:11 AM	#7 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	I wonder what you make when life gives you lemons as neighbors? __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!

06-18-2003, 09:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
Phoenix Upright Location: Chicage, Illinois	What kind of sour neighbor called the cops to shut down a 6 year old's lemonade stand?

06-18-2003, 11:20 PM	#6 (permalink)
spanky spangler Upright	Guess the neighbour felt she would compete with their 'milk of human kindness' stand.

06-19-2003, 12:30 AM	#8 (permalink)
MrFlux Fluxing wildly... Location: Auckland, New Zealand	Put them in the Juicermatic 5000 That's a pretty good story actually, shame on the neighbours for calling the police, but good on the council for giving them the permit for free, now the neighbours can't bother them anymore. __________________ flux (n.) Medicine. The discharge of large quantities of fluid material from the body, especially the discharge of watery feces from the intestines.

06-19-2003, 01:06 AM	#9 (permalink)
phredgreen who? Location: the phoenix metro	wow... this is really no suprise... i've lived next to/around asshole neighbors on and off my whole life... any excuse to be a pain in the ass and they'll happily take it. as for me, its probably the worst you'll ever have, but i make it a point to always stop at lemonade stands and give the kids a buck or two... it's just being a good person. __________________ My country is the world, and my religion is to do good. - Thomas Paine

06-19-2003, 02:52 AM	#10 (permalink)
cchris Junkie Location: Sydney	Thanks for those comments phredgreen as the most basic things in life we can do are the ones that actually make a difference. __________________ There's a fine line between participation and mockery

06-19-2003, 03:26 AM	#11 (permalink)
-Anders Custom title. Location: Denmark.	You know, this is grotesque. Who on earth would call the police on a six year old girl for selling limonade? I swear some people need to take a good look at themselves __________________ Signature 101

06-19-2003, 04:02 AM	#12 (permalink)
Daval Junkie Location: The True North Strong and Free!	I wish a pox on the neighbors. __________________ "It is impossible to obtain a conviction for sodomy from an English jury. Half of them don't believe that it can physically be done, and the other half are doing it." Winston Churchill

06-19-2003, 04:43 AM	#14 (permalink)
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06-19-2003, 05:38 AM	#15 (permalink)
platypus Essen meine kurze Hosen Location: NY Burbs	Another part of Americana shot to hell by assholes. I had stand when I was a kid. I still remember once when a big black sedan stopped and a guy in a suit got out. He bought a cup, handed me a dollar bill and said, "Keep the change, kid." I repeat that gesture all time. I love to make a little kid's face light up by handing him a buck or two for a 25 cent cup of lemonade and saying, "Keep the change." __________________ Out the 10Base-T, through the router, down the T1, over the leased line, off the bridge, past the firewall...nothing but Net.

06-19-2003, 05:42 AM	#16 (permalink)
gov135 Junkie Location: Midwest	I can certainly see why a permit would be required to operate a carnie-style food trailer or a hot dog stand. I fail to see why the law would apply to Abagail. If ever a law needed to be amended, it should be here. If lawmakers were to just put a floor on the dollar amount, say five dollars a day, this would not be an issue.

06-19-2003, 08:00 AM	#22 (permalink)
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06-19-2003, 10:59 AM	#26 (permalink)
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06-19-2003, 05:57 AM	#18 (permalink)
spectre Junkie	What kind of asshole calls the cops on a 6 year old with a over a lemonade stand? What a prick. __________________ "Fuck these chains No goddamn slave I will be different" ~ Machine Head

06-19-2003, 06:29 AM	#19 (permalink)
warrrreagl pinche vato Location: backwater, Third World, land of cotton	Like phred and others, I go out of my way to stop at kids' lemonade stands everytime I see one. I don't actually drink it, you understand (you don't know where those kids' hands have been), but I do give them the money. Actually, when I think about it, the kids with the lemonade stands end up getting the tips that I don't leave in the restaurant. How's that for a big fat juicy rationalization? __________________ Living is easy with eyes closed.

06-19-2003, 06:29 AM	#20 (permalink)
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06-19-2003, 06:55 AM	#21 (permalink)
Gortexfogg I and I Location: Stillwater, OK	That girl must live next to Mr. Wilson... no reasonable person would waste their own time to shut down a lemonade stand. It did say she was making a lot of tips. The neighbor may have been jealous or something and just tried to make the little girl miserable. At least the story has a happy ending.

06-19-2003, 08:04 AM	#23 (permalink)
livingitup101 Crazy	I wouldn't say it's the laws 'fault'. You need those types of laws to prevent vending going on anywhere and everywhere. The issue here is obviously with the neighbor. Life's too short to be worried about 6 year olds selling lemonade.

06-19-2003, 10:40 AM	#24 (permalink)
troit Transfer Agent Location: NYC	On a brighter side of a lemonade stand: http://tfproject.org/tfp/showthread....threadid=12460 __________________ I've yet to dephile myself...

06-19-2003, 10:56 AM	#25 (permalink)
denim Banned Location: Massachusetts, USA	Oh, I suspect that the police in that area will make sure the neighbor pays for this. After all, they know who called and what was said. AND they have the power.

06-19-2003, 12:08 PM	#27 (permalink)
CSflim Sky Piercer Location: Ireland	Yeah, nobody can fault the cops on this one. Not much they can do if some pain in the ass neighbour makes a complaint about the local kids having some clean, safe and down right productive good fun! Some people have too much bloody time on their hands! Get a life! I think its cool that they were given a permit for free though, that was a nice gesture by the city council. Makes for a happy ending, for a change! And the cop bought a glass of lemonade! Stupid no good neighbours! __________________

06-19-2003, 12:14 PM	#28 (permalink)
Atropos4 Think about it Location: North Carolina	poor kid....Funny thing is her parents probably know which neighbor called....We always did when someone called the police on us when me and alpha phi first got our house. That guy was such a jerk...thank-god his landlord evicted him.. __________________ Minds are like parachutes. They work better open. "If I were Hermione, I would have licked his pantleg."

06-19-2003, 08:42 PM	#29 (permalink)
yatzr Insane	man, she gets shut down while the man show boy runs a beer stand.....just not right __________________ Mechanical Engineers build weapons. Civil Engineers build targets.

06-20-2003, 10:48 AM	#30 (permalink)
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06-20-2003, 11:50 AM	#31 (permalink)
Paper Clip Upright	That neighbor is a looser!"Let's take up city funds in having our government chase down a little girl selling lemonade." Get a freekin' life! I know where my used up lemons would go!

06-20-2003, 12:10 PM	#32 (permalink)
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06-20-2003, 04:28 PM	#33 (permalink)
viveleroi0 Psycho Location: Oregon	I recall doing that. My friend and I were the premier entrapaneurs... we sold several cups of Kool-Aide lemoade, to people at a local park. All of the money earned was 100% profit, as the supllies were free. ::grin:: __________________ "It's not that I don't understand, it's that I don't care" - Homer Simpson