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RAMONES!!! · 06-15-2003, 04:36 PM

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...lue_ice_suit_1
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Calif. Man Wins Airplane Toilet Ice Suit

SANTA CRUZ, Calif. - A Santa Cruz man won a suit against American Airlines alleging that one of the company's planes released two chunks of toilet waste, known euphemistically as "blue ice," onto the skylight his boat

After the chunks came crashing down and damaged his boat, Ray Erickson tracked down the plane — American Airlines Flight 1950 — and sued in small claims court.

He receive'd the court's ruling in the mail Friday. A judge ordered the airline to pay him $3,236 - almost the entire amount Erickson had sought.

Mike Fergus, a spokesman for the Federal Aviation Administration, was surprised at the decision.

"I'll be darned," said Fergus, who hadn't heard of any similar suits succeeding before.

The airline has 30 days to appeal the ruling. Airline officials could not be reached to comment Saturday.
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i'm glad he won.
at least he didnt sue them for millions of dollars

Tom Thumb · 06-15-2003, 04:50 PM

Yeah, I agree. Freak occurence, but the airline was responsible.

It's not as though $3200'll bankrupt anyone in any case, so it sounds like he actually just wanted to repair his boat.

Halx · 06-15-2003, 05:00 PM

Amen for this. There is no shame in suing for ACTUAL damages at the amount that the damages are worth.

BoCo · 06-15-2003, 05:04 PM

Watch the airline spend 10 times the amount to try to fight it, when it'd be cheaper and more honorable to just pay the guy.

gov135 · 06-15-2003, 05:24 PM

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Originally posted by BoCo
Watch the airline spend 10 times the amount to try to fight it, when it'd be cheaper and more honorable to just pay the guy.

Or the airline will simply drag it out long enough that it's not worth this guy's time and effort to recoup the three grand. That way there remains no legal precident for awarding damages for these cases.

spectre · 06-15-2003, 05:40 PM

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Originally posted by Halx
There is no shame in suing for ACTUAL damages at the amount that the damages are worth.

Agreed. It's annoying to see those kinds of lawsuits. Hope the airlines don't fight him so he gets the cash.

rockzilla · 06-15-2003, 06:03 PM

He did get the cash, the title of the article even says he won the suit. I'll echo a few other people here though and say I'm glad he didn't try to sue for millions though. I'd be interested in knowing where the frozen shit landed, was his boat docked, or out on the ocean? Airlines shouldn't be dropping big cubes of frozen waste anywhere near land.

Edit : I suppose the airline could appeal, but what judge in their right mind would overturn this?

BBtB · 06-15-2003, 07:33 PM

He got the money for repairs to damage they caused. Seems logical to me. I don't see why they are just dumping their crap (hehe... literally) anyway. I mean is it SO hard for them to just hold that and unload it on land? I mean you can't tell me at this age that we can not put a tank on a plane to hold the crap for one flight.

YourNeverThere · 06-15-2003, 07:47 PM

BBtB has it right, why dump it over the ocean? its just dangerous

MacGnG · 06-15-2003, 08:10 PM

yea 3200 is no biggie for them, maybe like 5k he coulda gotten but no need to be greedy

KeyserSoze · 06-15-2003, 08:56 PM

I wonder if they will write Block of Frozen Shit in the memo section on the check they give him

merkerguitars · 06-15-2003, 09:47 PM

Perfect outcome I think. Yeah good point, Why can't just they just drop that stuff in the ocean or in the middle of the desert.

MSD · 06-16-2003, 08:48 AM

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Originally posted by merkerguitars
Perfect outcome I think. Yeah good point, Why can't just they just drop that stuff in the ocean or in the middle of the desert.

If it lands in the desert, it'll take quite a while to break down due to the dry environment. You could be hiking through Death Valley and come across ten-year-old piles of dried shit. Plus, it could hit someone there.

Just go with the ocean, as long as that blue stuff sterilizes it and doesn't risk spreading nasty diseases to wherever it washes up.

eyeseepeedude · 06-16-2003, 09:17 AM

I think this is almost as bad as suing McD's because their coffee is hot... some things don't deserve to be sued over. (*I would have laughed at the situation. Good story to tell the kids.*)

oblar · 06-16-2003, 06:42 PM

have to say that I am happy with this. I am tired of people suing large corporations for massive amounts of money for no better reason than to get at a piece of their deep pockets. A reasonable amount, to repair the damage that was not the man's fault. Very reasonable.

06-15-2003, 04:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
RAMONES!!! _-_---_-_	blue ice=green cash http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...lue_ice_suit_1 ----------------------------------------------------- Calif. Man Wins Airplane Toilet Ice Suit SANTA CRUZ, Calif. - A Santa Cruz man won a suit against American Airlines alleging that one of the company's planes released two chunks of toilet waste, known euphemistically as "blue ice," onto the skylight his boat After the chunks came crashing down and damaged his boat, Ray Erickson tracked down the plane — American Airlines Flight 1950 — and sued in small claims court. He receive'd the court's ruling in the mail Friday. A judge ordered the airline to pay him $3,236 - almost the entire amount Erickson had sought. Mike Fergus, a spokesman for the Federal Aviation Administration, was surprised at the decision. "I'll be darned," said Fergus, who hadn't heard of any similar suits succeeding before. The airline has 30 days to appeal the ruling. Airline officials could not be reached to comment Saturday. ----------------------------------------------------- i'm glad he won. at least he didnt sue them for millions of dollars __________________ Come on

06-15-2003, 04:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tom Thumb Crazy Location: In a self portrait	Yeah, I agree. Freak occurence, but the airline was responsible. It's not as though $3200'll bankrupt anyone in any case, so it sounds like he actually just wanted to repair his boat. __________________ My name is marketing. Now buy my product.

06-15-2003, 05:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
Halx Please touch this. Owner/Admin Location: Manhattan	Amen for this. There is no shame in suing for ACTUAL damages at the amount that the damages are worth. __________________ You have found this post informative. -The Administrator [Don't Feed The Animals]

06-15-2003, 05:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
BoCo Fear the bunny Location: Hanging off the tip of the Right Wing	Watch the airline spend 10 times the amount to try to fight it, when it'd be cheaper and more honorable to just pay the guy. __________________ Activism is a way for useless people to feel important.

06-15-2003, 06:03 PM	#7 (permalink)
rockzilla Junkie Location: The Kitchen	He did get the cash, the title of the article even says he won the suit. I'll echo a few other people here though and say I'm glad he didn't try to sue for millions though. I'd be interested in knowing where the frozen shit landed, was his boat docked, or out on the ocean? Airlines shouldn't be dropping big cubes of frozen waste anywhere near land. Edit : I suppose the airline could appeal, but what judge in their right mind would overturn this? Last edited by rockzilla; 06-15-2003 at 06:06 PM..

06-15-2003, 07:33 PM	#8 (permalink)
BBtB ClerkMan! Location: Tulsa, Ok.	He got the money for repairs to damage they caused. Seems logical to me. I don't see why they are just dumping their crap (hehe... literally) anyway. I mean is it SO hard for them to just hold that and unload it on land? I mean you can't tell me at this age that we can not put a tank on a plane to hold the crap for one flight. __________________ Meridae'n once played "death" at a game of chess that lasted for over two years. He finally beat death in a best 34 out of 67 match. At that time he could ask for any one thing and he could wish for the hope of all mankind... he looked death right in the eye and said ... "I would like about three fiddy"

06-15-2003, 07:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
YourNeverThere Practical Anarchist Location: Yesterday i woke up stuck in hollywood	BBtB has it right, why dump it over the ocean? its just dangerous __________________ The Above post is a direct quote from Shakespeare

06-15-2003, 08:10 PM	#10 (permalink)
MacGnG Know Where!	yea 3200 is no biggie for them, maybe like 5k he coulda gotten but no need to be greedy

06-15-2003, 08:56 PM	#11 (permalink)
KeyserSoze Psycho Location: Lost Angeles	I wonder if they will write Block of Frozen Shit in the memo section on the check they give him __________________ THERE IS NO KEYSER SOZE!!

06-15-2003, 09:47 PM	#12 (permalink)
merkerguitars Buffering......... Location: Wisconsin...	Perfect outcome I think. Yeah good point, Why can't just they just drop that stuff in the ocean or in the middle of the desert. __________________ Donate now! Ask me How! Please use the search function it is your friend. Look at my mustang please feel free to comment! http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=26985

06-16-2003, 09:17 AM	#14 (permalink)
eyeseepeedude Sir Location: Colorado Springs, CO	I think this is almost as bad as suing McD's because their coffee is hot... some things don't deserve to be sued over. (I would have laughed at the situation. Good story to tell the kids.) __________________ If you like what you see, donate to the TFP

06-16-2003, 06:42 PM	#15 (permalink)
oblar Über-Rookie Location: No longer, D.C	have to say that I am happy with this. I am tired of people suing large corporations for massive amounts of money for no better reason than to get at a piece of their deep pockets. A reasonable amount, to repair the damage that was not the man's fault. Very reasonable. __________________ "All that we can do is just survive. .All that we can do to help ourselves is stay alive." - Rush