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Strange Famous · 06-18-2007, 10:28 AM

I'm really not going to celebrate anybody's death, whatever they stand for or are... I suppose in a way the sad thing wasn't so much him or the "jokes" - it was the fact that people like him (and Roy Chubby Brown) still have a huge following... whatever we think is cool or cutting edge, it often seems there is this huge silent majority who follow thing which are appalling or useless.

maleficent · 06-18-2007, 11:01 AM

Maybe I need to get out more -I've never heard of him - so - for those who are in the same boat...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Manning

http://www.guardian.co.uk/race/story/0,,2105919,00.html

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Mark Tran and agencies
Monday June 18, 2007

The controversial Mancunian stand-up comedian Bernard Manning has died of kidney failure, at the age of 76.

A spokesman for North Manchester general hospital, where he was being treated, said: "He died here at 3.10pm today."

Manning had been a patient in the hospital for the past two weeks and was admitted to intensive care over the weekend, but only yesterday his son Bernard Jr had said his condition was improving.

A show business agent and close friend, Mickey Martin, led the tributes, telling the Manchester Evening News Manning's death was a sad loss.

"I was going to visit him today but young Bernard called to say he's gone," Mr Martin said. "It's come all of a sudden; we thought he was on the mend."

Mr Martin added: "He was the godfather of [the TV show] The Comedians and it's a sad loss to Manchester as well as to the world of comedy."

But critics accused him of picking on minority groups, although he denied he was a racist. Jokes that would have got a laugh in the 1970s would probably be considered risquéé today.

"I'm not a racist, I have a colour TV," he once joked. He also said: "I'm no racist, I take the piss out of the poofs too!"

Manning was born in 1930 in Ancoats, one of Manchester's poorest suburbs, the second of three brothers and two sisters.

"We had absolutely nothing," he once recalled. "One cold water tap in the house, no bath, outside toilet."

His career in entertainment began when he was doing his national service in Germany. To pass the time, Manning began to sing popular standards to entertain his fellow soldiers. Eventually he became a fulltime comedian.

During the 1950s and 1960s, he worked mostly in comedy clubs and working men's clubs in northern England. He made his TV debut on Granada's stand-up comedy review The Comedians in the early 1970s and went on to compere The Wheeltappers and Shunters Social Club.

Strange Famous · 06-18-2007, 11:12 AM

he was a working class comedian who's "jokes" were normally based on violence towards women, racism, and homophobia.

He was effectively banned from TV for the last 30 years in the UK, but still had a huge following and played to full audiences in working men's clubs until the end.

Daniel_ · 06-18-2007, 12:46 PM

My boss was at an event recently (in April) at which he was an after dinner speaker. Apparently his first joke was:

"They say you are what you eat. I'm a cunt".

Strange Famous · 06-18-2007, 12:55 PM

Ive heard Roy Chubby Brown tell that joke also.

Another very unfunny man.

analog · 06-18-2007, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Strange Famous

he was a working class comedian who's "jokes" were normally based on violence towards women, racism, and homophobia.

Sounds like quite a guy.

highthief · 06-18-2007, 05:14 PM

*shrug* - it was pretty normal in the times. Not values I hold with, but the guy wasn't burning crosses on people's lawns, lynching them or anything like that.

I don't hold with racism, but you know, half of England was that way in the 60s and 70s. I remember my grandmother yelling at the TV during the Olympics "Look at that darkie run!"

06-18-2007, 10:28 AM	#1 (permalink)
Strange Famous follower of the child's crusade?	Bernard Manning dead at 76 I'm really not going to celebrate anybody's death, whatever they stand for or are... I suppose in a way the sad thing wasn't so much him or the "jokes" - it was the fact that people like him (and Roy Chubby Brown) still have a huge following... whatever we think is cool or cutting edge, it often seems there is this huge silent majority who follow thing which are appalling or useless. __________________ "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas

06-18-2007, 11:12 AM	#3 (permalink)
Strange Famous follower of the child's crusade?	he was a working class comedian who's "jokes" were normally based on violence towards women, racism, and homophobia. He was effectively banned from TV for the last 30 years in the UK, but still had a huge following and played to full audiences in working men's clubs until the end. __________________ "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas

06-18-2007, 12:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
Daniel_ Evil Priest: The Devil Made Me Do It! Location: Southern England	My boss was at an event recently (in April) at which he was an after dinner speaker. Apparently his first joke was: "They say you are what you eat. I'm a cunt". __________________ ╔═════════════════════════════════════════╗ Overhead, the Albatross hangs motionless upon the air, And deep beneath the rolling waves, In labyrinths of Coral Caves, The Echo of a distant time Comes willowing across the sand; And everthing is Green and Submarine ╚═════════════════════════════════════════╝

06-18-2007, 12:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
Strange Famous follower of the child's crusade?	Ive heard Roy Chubby Brown tell that joke also. Another very unfunny man. __________________ "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas

06-18-2007, 05:14 PM	#7 (permalink)
highthief Junkie Location: Ontario, Canada	shrug - it was pretty normal in the times. Not values I hold with, but the guy wasn't burning crosses on people's lawns, lynching them or anything like that. I don't hold with racism, but you know, half of England was that way in the 60s and 70s. I remember my grandmother yelling at the TV during the Olympics "Look at that darkie run!" __________________ Si vis pacem parabellum.