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Old 06-07-2007, 07:02 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Lasereth, I had read that as well, long before she actually went to jail. The problem I have is that the reason she was let out was not overcrowding, but a medical condition, or whatever they're calling it. I agree, it's better to have a murderer behind bars than Paris, but the fact that it was the Sheriff's that released her, not the judge or the d.a, I just wonder about it. Being sent to do house arrest at her home hardly seems like punishment to me. I have already heard that her favourite bakery delivered cupcakes there today. I doubt they're able to do that at jail. I dunno, I just wish some of these bitches would get a taste of reality.
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Old 06-07-2007, 07:08 PM   #42 (permalink)
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If she really was going to have a nervous breakdown, then they did the right thing. Sentences are meant to be rehabilitative, not destructive. Breaking her psyche doesn't rehabilitate or teach her.

Just sayin'.
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Old 06-07-2007, 07:25 PM   #43 (permalink)
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If she really was going to have a nervous breakdown, then they did the right thing. Sentences are meant to be rehabilitative, not destructive. Breaking her psyche doesn't rehabilitate or teach her.

Just sayin'.
I appreciate that, but the bottom line is that she got out of jail and she's Paris Hilton. Frankly, jail isn't fit for anyone. It's set up to be destructive, not rehabilitative. While that requires attention, that doesn't mean that the 'millionaire socialite' (even writing that makes me feel disgusting) gets a free out. If she can be under house arrest, then everyone should. If no one else can, then she can't. Double standards are against my philosophy.
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Old 06-07-2007, 07:53 PM   #44 (permalink)
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2 more cents.

If you cant do the time dont to the crime.
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Old 06-07-2007, 08:23 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Apparently, the sheriff was a tad hasty. Seems the judge didn't sign off on this release
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LOS ANGELES (June 7) - Paris Hilton 's release from jail may not last. Hours after she was sent home under house arrest Thursday for an undisclosed medical condition, the judge who put her in jail for violating her reckless-driving probation ordered her into court to decide if she should go back behind bars.
Hilton must report to court at 9 a.m. Friday, Superior Court spokesman Allan Parachini told The Associated Press.
"My understanding is she will be brought in in a sheriff's vehicle from her home," Parachini said.
The celebrity inmate was sent home from the Los Angeles County jail's Lynwood lockup shortly after 2 a.m. in a stunning reduction to her original 45-day sentence. She had reported to jail Sunday night after attending the MTV Movie Awards.
She was ordered to finish her sentence under house arrest, meaning she could not leave her four-bedroom, three-bath home in the Hollywood Hills until next month.
City Attorney Rocky Delgadillo said he learned of her release the same way as almost everyone else - through news reports.
Then, late Thursday, he filed a petition questioning whether Sheriff Lee Baca should be held in contempt of court for releasing Hilton - and demanding that she be held in custody. Soon after that, Superior Court Judge Michael T. Sauer decided to haul Hilton back to the courtroom.
"It is the city attorney's position that the decision on whether or not Ms. Hilton should be released early and placed on electronic monitoring should be made by Judge Sauer and not the Sheriff's Department," said Jeffrey Isaacs of the city attorney's office.
Sauer himself had expressed his unhappiness with Hilton's release. When he sentenced Hilton to jail last month, he ruled specifically that she could not serve her sentence at home under electronic monitoring.
Shortly before noon, Hilton issued a statement through her attorney.
"I want to thank the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department and staff of the Century Regional Detention Center for treating me fairly and professionally," she said. "I am going to serve the remaining 40 days of my sentence. I have learned a great deal from this ordeal and hope that others have learned from my mistakes."
Attorneys differed on whether her treatment was unusual.
"She would have gotten out early if she was plain Jane," said Leonard Levine, who has handled numerous probation violation cases. He noted that overcrowding in the Los Angeles County jail system has led to thousands of nonviolent offenders serving only 10 percent of their sentences. "She did as much time as a normal person would have done."
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Old 06-07-2007, 08:28 PM   #46 (permalink)
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1. It was gthe Sheriff's decision, not the judge's. Apparently, he is furious and has summoned her to court Monday.

2. Uber's nervous breakdown defense is too weak. There are way to many people in prison/jail that experience nervous breakdowns. That's hardly an excuse to get out of your sentence. Rehabilitive versus punitive is another thread.

3. Plenty of films are still shot in SoCal.

4. Performance art. There is actually enough evidence to pursue this theory. That she is not as dumb as she looks and acts. The "Paris Hilton" was created to pander to our stupidity and obsession with all things celebrity (just look at all the hits for this thread alone). There are some interviews where she talks about this.

5. I still don't get why she is so popular. She's not even pretty.
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Old 06-07-2007, 08:28 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Something new I learned from the new articles about her being required to report back to the judge are that she has been cited TWICE for driving on a suspended license!

Twice! Once being her second DUI. If you get caught doing that twice, you never once intended to comply with the ruling. She's been driving the whole time.
And she can afford to hire a driver with the loose money in her couch. Yet she drives anyway?

And it only gets her 3 days in an actual jail before her delicate sensibilities get her released.

It's this repeated flaunting of the law that really gets me. She doesn't give a damn and the actions taken against her thus far only reinforce her perceived invincibility.
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Old 06-07-2007, 08:32 PM   #48 (permalink)
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getting rid of sheriff baca would be icing on the cake over all of this. hopefully an investigation will reveal all of his favors to the wealthy, elite, and famous.
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Old 06-07-2007, 08:35 PM   #49 (permalink)
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I'm ashamed I'm even thinking about this situation. I should be concentrating on bringing my friends home from Iraq or curing AIDS in Africa. This actually distracted me for a bit, and I'm disappointed in myself.
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Old 06-08-2007, 01:26 AM   #50 (permalink)
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I have been engaged in this whole thing for one good cause:

Getting annoying 'celebrities' in prison.

Me thinks it is just as worth as curing cancer.
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Old 06-08-2007, 02:24 AM   #51 (permalink)
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I'm ashamed I'm even thinking about this situation. I should be concentrating on bringing my friends home from Iraq or curing AIDS in Africa. This actually distracted me for a bit, and I'm disappointed in myself.
I actually feel shame more for the country. Turn on most news channels last night and they spent 1/6 their time talking about this rather then any real news. It is amazing how much over time news has become about celebs then actual news.
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Old 06-08-2007, 04:51 AM   #52 (permalink)
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If her medical condition had been that severe, last I checked they had hospitals in California.
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Old 06-08-2007, 05:14 AM   #53 (permalink)
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I'm ashamed I'm even thinking about this situation. I should be concentrating on bringing my friends home from Iraq or curing AIDS in Africa. This actually distracted me for a bit, and I'm disappointed in myself.
"Excuse me - could you spare a few minutes for AIDS research?"

"Yes I can, but I'm not sure how much we'll get done... I tell you what, we'll go over here and brainstorm while we wolf down these sandwiches."

I want Paris to become invisible. I'd like it if I never heard her name again, even in a funny Conan joke or an unfunny Letterman joke. When did this country become one giant episode of Entertainment Tonight?
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Old 06-08-2007, 08:38 AM   #54 (permalink)
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That wasn't a hunger strike, her diet just doesnt permit her to eat on those 3 days. Jesus, didn't anyone read last month's health tips by paris hilton in teen magazine?

Also, that sex tape was boring as hell, I have better luck getting off to an episode of Chip 'n Dale's Rescue Rangers.. Jim Cummings has such a sexy voice.. and I used chip n dale.. and cummings in a sentence about getting off.. gross..

What were we talking about again?
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Old 06-08-2007, 11:33 AM   #55 (permalink)
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By LINDA DEUTSCH, AP Special Correspondent 4 minutes ago

Screaming and crying, Paris Hilton was escorted out of a courtroom and back to jail Friday after a judge ruled that she must serve out her entire 45-day sentence behind bars rather than in her Hollywood Hills home.

"It's not right!" shouted the weeping Hilton, who violated her parole in a reckless driving case. "Mom!" she called out to her mother in the audience.

Hilton, who was brought to court in handcuffs in a sheriff's car, came into the courtroom disheveled and weeping, hair askew, sans makeup, wearing a gray fuzzy sweatshirt over slacks.

She cried throughout the hearing, her body shook constantly and she dabbed at her eyes. Several times she turned to her parents, seated behind her in the courtroom, and mouthed, "I love you."

Superior Court Judge Michael T. Sauer was calm but apparently irked by the morning's developments. He said he had left the courthouse Thursday night having signed an order for Hilton to appear for the hearing.

When he got in his car early Friday, he said, he heard a radio report that he had approved Hilton's participation in the hearing by telephone, but he had not.

"I at no time condoned the actions of the sheriff and at no time told him I approved the actions," he said of the decision to release Hilton from jail after three days.

"At no time did I approve the defendant being released from custody to her home on Kings Road," Sauer said.

This is a breaking news update. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Paris Hilton was escorted from a courtroom screaming and crying on Friday after a judge sent her back to jail to serve out her entire 45-day sentence for a parole violation in a reckless driving case.

"It's not right!" shouted the weeping Hilton. "Mom!" she called out to her mother in the audience.

Hilton, who was brought to court in handcuffs in a sheriff's car, came into the courtroom disheveled and weeping. Her hair was askew and she wore a gray fuzzy sweatshirt over slacks. She wore no makeup and she cried throughout the hearing.

Her body also shook constantly as she dabbed at her eyes. Several times she turned to her parents, seated behind her in the courtroom, and mouthed, "I love you."
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Old 06-08-2007, 11:44 AM   #56 (permalink)
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I've had a few "issues" with Johnny Law. Damn, how I wished I was an androgynous blond hobag with metric tons of money.

I'm waiting for California to break off and fall into the ocean.
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Old 06-08-2007, 12:06 PM   #57 (permalink)
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We need to remember that in America - Justice is different for the rich.

Sorry, it had to be said.
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Old 06-08-2007, 03:33 PM   #58 (permalink)
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Awww poor baby! NOT!

I wonder if she paid off her jailers or gave them blowjobs to get out early?

Either way I am absolutely thrilled that her pansy skeeze butt is back where she belongs.

I hear she gets a psych eval too! Those findings should be quite interesting!
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Old 06-10-2007, 01:29 AM   #59 (permalink)
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I have a distinct feeling that if a thread titled 'Why I'm better than Paris Hilton' was started, we'd hit 10,000 replies.



The world would be a better place without her.
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Old 06-10-2007, 03:35 PM   #60 (permalink)
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It's one judge, not the whole state. I happen to be proud of a lot of things from California, we're damned progressive, we have one of the strongest economies in the world, let alone in the US, and we're rad. One complete idiot judge can't define my state.
One complete idito judge, one complete idiot sheriff, one complete idiot governor, one comeplete idiot mayor, one complete idiot... keep adding them all up...

yeah all those "one complete" can define and has defined CA to the rest of the world. Let's see, OJ was followed by the helicopters, Paris was followed by the helicopters, misc traffic violations are followed by the helicopters.

as far as pulling for SB's brother, "we are all pulling for him"? Ummm no... 2nd DUI? Maybe YOU are pulling for him will, please don't lump ME in that WE. What you think that it should be less than what it is? F that. As I said before in another thread, if all these decades of zero tolerance DUI stuff, make them FELONIES. Hell, brandishing a gun in a crime is a felony, hitting a bus driver in NYC, is a felony.
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Old 06-10-2007, 03:51 PM   #61 (permalink)
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It's one judge, not the whole state. I happen to be proud of a lot of things from California, we're damned progressive, we have one of the strongest economies in the world, let alone in the US, and we're rad. One complete idiot judge can't define my state.
and who is the idiot judge?
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Old 06-10-2007, 04:08 PM   #62 (permalink)
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One complete idito judge, one complete idiot sheriff, one complete idiot governor, one comeplete idiot mayor, one complete idiot... keep adding them all up...
Wow, I guess you aren't familiar with the great state of California. If you'd like, I can start a thread and explain just how great California really is.
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as far as pulling for SB's brother, "we are all pulling for him"? Ummm no... 2nd DUI? Maybe YOU are pulling for him will, please don't lump ME in that WE. What you think that it should be less than what it is?
This is the type of thing that worries me about some members. They get so caught up in everything that they think they are always right and everyone else is always wrong. It's one of the unfortunate realities of the isolationism from real society on TFP. Remember, on TFP you can't read my face, hear my tone of voice, or pick up on any other non-verbal communication. When I said, "We're all pulling for him", I meant, OBLIVIOUSLY, that we want him to reform. Nothing in my entire posting history could even suggest that I'd want someone guilty of a crime released without justice, so your conclusion and subsequent lecture are useless.

It's a shame that you allow your want to lecture to override your reasonable perception. I hope what I meant is clear now that I spelled it out, and hopefully we can avoid misunderstandings in the future if we ask what the other person means instead of assuming they're wrong and you're right. I'll promise to do the same.

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and who is the idiot judge?
Hahaha....yeah I jumped the gun there. I assumed that the judge was contacted and he made the determination to release her. That wasn't the case, I gather. I meant to name the party who released her, whomever that was.

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Old 06-10-2007, 04:22 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Wow, I guess you aren't familiar with the great state of California. If you'd like, I can start a thread and explain just how great California really is.

This is the type of thing that worries me about some members. They get so caught up in everything that they think they are always right and everyone else is always wrong. It's one of the unfortunate realities of the isolationism from real society on TFP. Remember, on TFP you can't read my face, hear my tone of voice, or pick up on any other non-verbal communication. When I said, "We're all pulling for him", I meant, OBLIVIOUSLY, that we want him to reform. Nothing in my entire posting history could even suggest that I'd want someone guilty of a crime released without justice, so your conclusion and subsequent lecture are useless.

It's a shame that you allow your want to lecture to override your reasonable perception. I hope what I meant is clear now that I spelled it out, and hopefully we can avoid misunderstandings in the future if we ask what the other person means instead of assuming they're wrong and you're right. I'll promise to do the same.


Hahaha....yeah I jumped the gun there. I assumed that the judge was contacted and he made the determination to release her. That wasn't the case, I gather. I meant to name the party who released her, whomever that was.
yeah, it was so obvious. Again, YOU may want him to reform and see prison as a methodology to reform. I do not.

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I also cannot pick up on the words that you don't type.

And no, I know all about the great state of California. I grew up and lived there for 20 years. I couldn't stand the hypocrisy of the people who lived there and the governement.

I'm still trying to find the exact item that gave Sheriff Baca the ability to reduce sentences via a federal mandate to reduce prison over crowding. IMO that is unconstitutional on it's face and maybe this brings it to light.

what I have found so far and it's a bit pithy.
http://www.nicic.org/pubs/pre/006403.pdf
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yeah, it was so obvious. Again, YOU may want him to reform and see prison as a methodology to reform. I do not.
If you're familiar with my posting history on prisons, you'd know that I don't think prisons are built for reform but to precipitate their own existence while making the corporate owners richer. So again you've chosen to assume that I'm wrong and you're right based on nothing but the words that I don't type, even though I do type them, at length.
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I also cannot pick up on the words that you don't type.
So you assume I'm wrong. Think about that, please.
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And no, I know all about the great state of California. I grew up and lived there for 20 years. I couldn't stand the hypocrisy of the people who lived there and the governement.
I hope you enjoyed our ability to stereotype more than our supposed hypocrisy, as it seems you may have picked it up.
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If you're familiar with my posting history on prisons, you'd know that I don't think prisons are built for reform but to precipitate their own existence while making the corporate owners richer. So again you've chosen to assume that I'm wrong and you're right based on nothing but the words that I don't type, even though I do type them, at length.

So you assume I'm wrong. Think about that, please.

I hope you enjoyed our ability to stereotype more than our supposed hypocrisy, as it seems you may have picked it up.
I don't assume you are wrong. You have an opinion that I don't agree with based on the words you HAVE typed.

I am not stereotyping the whole state of California. Things like this just underline for me the reasons that I decided to leave long before I moved out of California. While ALL places have their issues with politics and quality of life, after living in someplace where people actually wore their opinions on their sleeves and did not apologize for it, I decided I preferred that then the methods I experienced in my years living in California.
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I don't assume you are wrong.
We aren't speaking the same language, I guess. You wrote this:
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YOU may want him to reform and see prison as a methodology to reform.
And if you can point out where I mentioned that I want to see prison as a methodology to reform, I'll eat my hat.
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I am not stereotyping the whole state of California. Things like this just underline for me the reasons that I decided to leave long before I moved out of California.
I'm afraid I don't know what you mean by 'things like this'. Maybe you could elaborate on 'this'.
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While ALL places have their issues with politics and quality of life, after living in someplace where people actually wore their opinions on their sleeves and did not apologize for it, I decided I preferred that then the methods I experienced in my years living in California.
So I'm quiet about my opinions? My thousands of posts say otherwise.
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We aren't speaking the same language, I guess. You wrote this:

And if you can point out where I mentioned that I want to see prison as a methodology to reform, I'll eat my hat.

I'm afraid I don't know what you mean by 'things like this'. Maybe you could elaborate on 'this'.

So I'm quiet about my opinions? My thousands of posts say otherwise.
Things like the Paris Hilton and OJ Simpson media circus.

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Since I don't have the time to look at all your posts, can you please summarize your prison stance, because in one post on this thread you say, rehabilitate I read that as reform, and now you don't.

I lived in California pre-internet, and yes, people there face to face do not tell you how they feel about things with regard to the individual. In most simplistic methods it's networking and social engineering, so no one there tells you that they don't like you, it's all based on holding the line in case you may be able to do something for them some day. Here in NYC, people will tell you that you are a fucking asshole to your face and make no apology for it as opposed to talking behind your back.
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so there we have it. I really don't care but i thought i'd let everyone know who doesn't follow the news. She's back in jails. it's just like we all wanted. haha! she's about to be someone's bitch!
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Since I don't have the time to look at all your posts, can you please summarize your prison stance, because in one post on this thread you say, rehabilitate I read that as reform, and now you don't.
Prisons are bad. The best way to deal with crime is prevention. It's cheaper and it's victimless. The current system creates harder criminals and costs more than we can afford.

What I hope for Superbelt's brother is that, somehow, he will be able to develop healthy behavior and learn to stop or control his drinking. I doubt that is reasonable to expect from prison. He'd be better off seeing a therapist, someone who can help him.
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I lived in California pre-internet, and yes, people there face to face do not tell you how they feel about things with regard to the individual. In most simplistic methods it's networking and social engineering, so no one there tells you that they don't like you, it's all based on holding the line in case you may be able to do something for them some day. Here in NYC, people will tell you that you are a fucking asshole to your face and make no apology for it as opposed to talking behind your back.
Not everyone thinks that everyone else is an asshole. If I called people assholes, I'd be misrepresenting my thoughts on the person (unless I was talking to Bush). BTW, when people call other people assholes to their face, they're posturing, which is a sign of lower intelligence and immaturity. I'm not saying that all people who use that type of language are immature and/or less intelligent, but it's a possibility. It's a sign that they haven't learned how to act around other adults. I know it sounds like I'm condescending, but that's tough. People who posture and treat other people like crap don't deserve my respect.
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Old 06-10-2007, 07:24 PM   #71 (permalink)
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I'm ashamed I'm even thinking about this situation. I should be concentrating on bringing my friends home from Iraq or curing AIDS in Africa. This actually distracted me for a bit, and I'm disappointed in myself.
well at least you've been vindicated... you can follow her and feel good about it.

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Old 06-11-2007, 01:27 AM   #72 (permalink)
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Of course, that last paragraph is Hilton's attempt to shame the media into not giving her so much negative attention. Of course, Hilton wants it both ways - all the positives of celebrity with none of the negatives.

But she's still 100% right in that paragraph. There is no justification for the amount of attention 'news' channels have given her.
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:17 AM   #73 (permalink)
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Celebs want all the press and the coverage for their shows, to sell themselves and their product. They invite them in to a lot of their personal celebration, weddings, etc... But they want to only open the door for what they want. By doing this they themselves have creates this demand and they are to blame. If Paris did not embrace the media all the other time, then there would be no reason for people to embrace the Schadenfreude (I hope I used this word right here).

So yeah she gets no sympathy from me. But either way I agree I hate the coverage of celebs i just don't give a fuck about them, outside of Schadenfreude.
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:44 AM   #74 (permalink)
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Every photo the paparazzi takes of her is a hidden promotion. She furthers her "career" with every shot that makes it into the tabloids. CNN has been having a field day when meanwhile on the other side of the world something interesting might be happening, but back to that after the Paris fiasco dies out if it ever will. Hollywood is like it's own country, if you're rich and famous, there are no laws to abide by. If you have enough money, you can buy yourself out of almost anything. I don't know much of California's laws or of law in general..but why are clubs and bars not being shut down for overserving the likes of Lohan who is underage? Anywhere else, that gets your licence to operate revoked. These leniencies are putting it's citizens in danger by not enforcing laws.

I don't like Paris Hilton, there's nothing really good about her. A person can do what ever they want with their money and she uses her wealth to do nothing but party and lower the bar in the art of acting and music. She acted like she was above the law and that it wasn't a big deal she went on the road intoxicated and putting lives at risk. She showed up late for court dates, acted all smug while attending celebrity events. It's obvious she can't handle taking responsibility for a reckless stupid act, then disregarding the warnings and doing it again.

It's kind of fascintating/morbid how much hatred this silly cow generates out of people and happy everyone is to see her crying for her mum all the way back to jail and for that I almost feel badly for her.
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Old 06-11-2007, 10:00 AM   #75 (permalink)
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I'm not sure she wrote that statement, but if she did, good. Not that I believe she really wishes for less media attention, but she is conveying the right message.
I don't really care for her, I just wish I wouldn't see HILTON in font size 72 on my TV each time I put on CNN, which is supposed to be the country's most reliable TV news source. Saddening, really.
This is why I get my news online now.
I wish people stopped caring about her so much. Those kind of people who buy tabloids and watch E! all day create the market for this. The reason this annoys me is I get exposed to it as well, and each time I do it's like mental nausea.
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Old 06-11-2007, 10:04 AM   #76 (permalink)
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biz, switch on Democracy Now! if you want the news. There is still news left in media.
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Old 06-11-2007, 10:17 AM   #77 (permalink)
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She has had a person whom she described as a spiritual adviser who said, "My spirit or soul did not like the way I was being seen and that is why I was sent to jail."

"God," she said, "has released me."

She is reading newspapers -- The LA Times and the Wall Street Journal -- and books like "The Secret," "The Power of Now" and the Bible.
I love it!!!! She found God in a few days!!!!
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Old 06-11-2007, 11:38 AM   #78 (permalink)
 
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biz, switch on Democracy Now! if you want the news. There is still news left in media.
on tv? or is it a web radio? i don't feel like googling this.
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Old 06-11-2007, 11:44 AM   #79 (permalink)
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on tv? or is it a web radio?
It's available in most forms of media. It's on Dish Network, DirecTV, many local public stations, many public radio stations, and it's available video or audio podcast at www.Democracynow.org. I usually download the podcast and watch it at work.

You can search your area for broadcast at the following link:
http://www.democracynow.org/stations.shtml
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Old 06-11-2007, 01:25 PM   #80 (permalink)
 
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cool. i just got the mp3. it's not bad. could use a bit more life. i'll try the vids next time.
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