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World's King 06-14-2003 12:37 PM

*backs away slowly*

white 06-14-2003 04:18 PM

why is there no "mens lounge"?

VirFighter 06-14-2003 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spectre

What bothers me about women: the games. I'm very straight forward about things. If something is wrong and you want to talk about it, say something. Don't make me guess. I read most women's signs like Stevie Wonder reads pitching signs. Tell me, otherwise, I'm not going to know.

I couldn't agree more, spectre.

I think I'm in the middle of one of these games right now but I have no clue how I got there or how to get out. :(

JadziaDax 06-14-2003 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by white
why is there no "mens lounge"?
Let me answer this with a quote... and then I'll add my own comment...

Quote:

Originally posted by phredgreen
so why don't we have a "men's only" forum? because we're really not that deep. we don't need some fucking boy's room where we can all scratch our balls and brag about the chick we banged last night without being chided by the ladies. we are in no danger from predators. we don't need to be protected. accept it.
Now, to add to it...
You wouldn't read the posts in a "men's forum" anyway. And you just proved it, since you didn't read this thread. That answer was in the 14th post from the top including the original post. If you failed to read the answer to your question, why would you read a forum dedicated to testosterone?

QuasiMojo 06-14-2003 06:27 PM

Women
I love the way they walk.
I love the way they talk.
I love the way they smell....
and I would do just about anything to get the "fair ones" attention.

But as One grows older, One will see
that they don't act like you and me.

And they never will.

Know THIS.
and you will be fine.

rockzilla 06-14-2003 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by white
why is there no "mens lounge"?
Everything is the "Men's Lounge"

Besides what kind of useless shit would we come up with on our own?

"I have a cock"

"Me too!"

"I don't understand women"

"Me either"

QuasiMojo 06-14-2003 06:46 PM

((Besides what kind of useless shit would we come up with on our own?)) -rockzilla



1)why won't she agree to a threesome?
2)how do I tell her that her snoring bugs the shit outta me?
3)is it wrong for me to get hard when her mom comes over?
4)her cooking would make a hyena starve.
5)how can I bring up the "Concept" of a three-way without her kooking?

I don't know dude, The list goes on.
:)

06-14-2003 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rockzilla
Everything is the "Men's Lounge"

Besides what kind of useless shit would we come up with on our own?

"I have a cock"

"Me too!"

"I don't understand women"

"Me either"

Yeah, well.....sometimes I fart real,real loud....

QuasiMojo 06-14-2003 06:55 PM

Quote:

Yeah, well.....sometimes I fart real,real loud....
Oh Hell YEAH. Farts...we forgot all about FARTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rockzilla 06-14-2003 07:59 PM

I can belch the whole alphabet

MacGnG 06-14-2003 08:11 PM

well im not gonna get into the silly argument.

i'll just leave my 1.5 cents about women: They are just difficult!

GakFace 06-15-2003 01:45 AM

wow.. I didn't see this thead until I saw a post about it in the ladies forum..> Which i personally Love. Why? Damn, its useful to learn from. The drinking Pineapple Juice tip was good in and of itself!:) its great as we can learn about them, not just their personality, but ABOUT them.

As for them being Men-Haters? You need help.. BAD. So what if they make a joke or two? We're CONSTANTLY making jokes. If I make a joke about a stereotypical guy... or any type of guy for that matter, will I be a man hater? As this is as you seem to propose. Let them make jokes, Jokes are funny, SO LAUGH AT THEM!!!! From what i've read on there, they most definately aren't man haters. Heck, reading that many women don't care for penis size was amazing.. Among the guy community, it seems that if yours isn't that big, you're gonna have a bad sex life... Yet the ladies have proved us wrong. So think about that.

As for a men's forum? WHY!!!!!???? We can talk about babes in the titty board... which is mostly guys posts anyways. We can talk about our shit with a woman's presence as they'll just stray away from our stuff. What good would it do? honestly, I don't understand, Feel free to PM me if you care to not be flamed, but I don't see how it would be helpful. If I wanna rant about women.. I will.... IN MY JOURNAL! If I have a question... I'll WANT a woman to reply to help me out! If its a guy thing, they'll be lost anyways. I'd hate to see a forum pop up where guys just talk about who they banged or want to. That shit just doesn't work for me, and thus it would be just a useless section i'd ignore... Hal isn't being sexist, he's just being smart.

As people have said, Women can be hard to find on here, and a womans section where only women can post is one helluva offer to get them in the community. I don't see the use of the men's forum.. I believe someone asked about this before, and i remember the replies of.. "Because we WANT the women with us!" with that... 'nuff said, or so I would hope to think.

Oh one last point. Generally speaking, women are known to bond by talking, guys aren't. Thus we wouldn't really bond there, but for women, its a great thing. But see, if they were to bond in the presence of men.. then explain to me why in real life (at least while you're in school) there's that term of "The Backroom" where girls tell each other everything, guys don't have that, cause we don't care who hears what if we're gonna say it. The ladies lounge is kinda like their backroom, sure we can read it, but they don't have to worry about immature guys jumping in and saying, "OOOOH YOU LIKE THAT TOY!! I'd Love to get In on you doing that!" I mean honestly, that won't help a thing, but I know someone would do something similar if they could. I'm not saying all guys are like this, but someone would be bound to make that mistake, and that would make me want to hit them.

Yeah they are out to get us... but we're out to get them. (mind you obviously I was speaking in a positive tone about it) Oh and uh, We play games too. Ever notice how a guy will just piss a girl off for the fun of it? Yeah that sure gets to them, and we do it on purpose. So let 'em rant about it, it makes them happier, which in turn makes me happy :)

Later Ladies ;) (oh and um.. you too Goat........ ........................)

--Gak

Fly 06-15-2003 07:19 AM

too many pussies here.it takes two to tango.....

they(women)have their little quirks that we (men)may not like.

guess what?it goes the same way with them about our quirks.

i never try to change them,just try to fit in and figure 'em out.

it's like a challenge to figure my wife out any given day.good,bad.ugly....whatever but......i'm nothin' special either.men and women gotta live together so they better figure each others shit out fast.

i've got 15 years with mine and they haven't all been pretty,but life is a big 'ol game and i'm up to learnin'.

*stays the fuck outta the ladies lounge*

Memalvada 06-15-2003 08:27 AM

I've lurked in the Ladie's Lounge a couple of times and I found it quite interesting.
I mean, there's so much stuff to learn... And even thought the may sound like man-haters from time to time, i dont really mind.

Marburg 06-15-2003 11:26 AM

Quote:

1) I find it ironic that you're admonishing goaterizer for being rude while presenting an avatar of yourself jerking off. While rude is not the exact adjective I'd use to describe your avatar, it's in the ball park. Another case of eye of the beholder I suppose.
Speaking of which, Halx, how did you even take that picture?

XenuHubbard 06-15-2003 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JadziaDax
If you failed to read the answer to your question, why would you read a forum dedicated to testosterone?
To laugh at my gender.

*Nikki* 06-15-2003 10:01 PM

Re: Re: WTF.....Women.......WTF
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sixate
I never even look in the Ladies Lounge cause there are things that they say that drive me insane. Actually, what drives me insane is that I can't respond to things they say about men. So I just stay the hell out.

I am sorry but that really made me laugh.
The point of the LL is really not to frustrate men. Even though all of you seem to think so.
You all know how boring this world would be without a woman's point of view. It is funny that you find us so frustrating yet spend most of your time thinking about us.;)

We love you too.

Ashton 06-16-2003 01:31 AM

Well, when I first read this thread I wanted to say what my feeling were on the subject.... but I didn't, I didn't want to upset any of the fine women we here at the TFP, but Damn! I can't but agree that the women of today are twisted..... You know, I'm a nice guy.... and that in itself is a curse, A terribile curse that in another time would be a fine thing....... but today being a 'nice guy' just means you're a fool. Being 'nice' means one of two things to women...... either you're a freak or somethings wrong with you....... I put the blame on women for one reason, The simple fact that women have the power to choose who they want, and even if that person turns out to be a asshole it doesen't matter...... "I can change him" is the excuse...... or "But I love him" When it comes down to it, women have screwed everything up by allowing the asshole men to be their first choice.......

Emagine this....... Every women in the Intercontinental United States says "fuck You" to the assholes, all of a sudden all of the assholes couldn't get laid no matter what...... guess what would happen? Either the assholes would learn not to be assholes ...... or the "nice guys" would for for once in their lives find girls that they have been looking for all thier lives...... And maybe, just maybe...... those women would learn that the "nice guy" is the type of guy that would love and spoil them....... never cheat on them, and be there for them no matter what............

But I'm just a just a "nice guy" which means I've lost even before I've started...... I'm the Loser that has everything except what he really wants........ and the reason I'm on this damn computer most of my fucked up lonley life.


/Forgive me T.F.P. I'm drunk, and this thread just hits me in a weak spot..... :(
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Loki 06-16-2003 02:48 AM

imo men and women want the same things, except women take the more convoluted route in achieving them. ;)

Signs are pretty easy to spot too, if you know what you are looking for and you are paying attention.

But as long as you believe that woman are impossible to understand, they always will be :)

neoinoakleys 06-16-2003 05:20 AM

Why can't women just be simple creatures like us?? I mean we are driven by one basic need, right?? Sex....:-)

Oh, wait they are led by one basic need...they want someone to say those 3 little words they long to hear....

Any one know those three words??


I'll tell you....


"I have money!!" :-)


(Sorry, ladies...but you know it's true at least for some of you...)

~springrain 06-16-2003 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ARTelevision
in my opinion, in general, men are no good.
If I were a woman, I'd be a lesbian feminist.

Also IMO, if women really knew what men were all about, they'd all be lesbian feminists.

*LOL*... ART... that is funny as hell... thank you for the smile...

i have to say, that while reading this thread i've felt pretty sad and generally disappointed/surprised by the hostility i felt from some of the posters toward women in general.

what is so ironic to me... is how the board can be FLOODED with pictures on the titty board and the like, with literally thousands of comments like "Wow, what a hottie, gotta LOVE that!"

... only to be followed up with comments here like "...

"it is plain to see that most of the women are out to ruin us"... and
I couldn't agree more... Which is exactly why I never keep a girlie for too long. So why would I waste my time and let some chic that I'm fucking run my life and ruin me?

there are many men out here that are awesome individuals... whose posts and opinions i look forward to reading...
but it's comments like the above mentioned that re-affirms the belief that the majority of men don't really want to know women... they only want us for what we can do for them... then we are expendable and easily discarded. sad.

THANK YOU... to you guys... and you know who you are... who continue to stand up for us Ladies and continue to make us feel welcome... :icare:

denim 06-16-2003 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by goaterizer
otherwise you are just being sexist
You're a fine one to talk.

eyeseepeedude 06-16-2003 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrSelfDestruct
I'm afraid to go into the ladies' lounge. Is it really as bad as people make it sound?
I don't think so. It's a good place to do homework, study the current version of female thinking (*till the next Beta release is out and dissiminated :)*), and to learn things that I never knew before.

Prophecy 06-16-2003 06:19 AM

Is it just me or does it seem that most of the people in this thread view men as shallow blabbering testosterone filled horn dogs that sit around and scratch…

Quote:

Originally posted by ARTelevision
in my opinion, in general, men are no good.
If I were a woman, I'd be a lesbian feminist.

Also IMO, if women really knew what men were all about, they'd all be lesbian feminists.

Personally, I appreciate any tolerance we get from them at all because, as a group, we don't deserve it.

Quote:

Originally posted by phredgreen
so why don't we have a "men's only" forum? because we're really not that deep. we don't need some fucking boy's room where we can all scratch our balls and brag about the chick we banged last night without being chided by the ladies. we are in no danger from predators. we don't need to be protected. accept it.
Quote:

Originally posted by rockzilla
Everything is the "Men's Lounge"

Besides what kind of useless shit would we come up with on our own?

"I have a cock"

"Me too!"

"I don't understand women"

"Me either"

Personally, I’m surprised. For another guy to say that we aren’t that deep is just a sad generalization and it shows how we think of ourselves. Yes, we have our moments and our quirks but so does everyone including women. I enjoy watching sports, talking about the “chick” I saw last night and scratching my balls just as much as the next guy. However, to say that’s all we do is degrading to ourselves; let’s give ourselves more credit here guys. Also, I’m not pushing for a men’s only forum because we don’t need it, we have the other boards. But to say if we had a “men’s lounge” that it would be filled with just crappy threads because we’re shallow is for lack of a better word, stupid. Look at the posts of the guys all across the forum from General Discussion to Titled Politics to Tilted Literature to Titled Artwork and etc. Men aren’t just testosterone filled braggarts that put all our focus into sex. We’re artists, poets, inventors, writers, lawyers, doctors and more.

Entering this thread I expected to see, well I don’t know what I expected to se after reading the title, but I didn’t expect to male or female bashing. (Okay, maybe a little female bashing…)

Goaterizer had a rough time starting his thread. He didn’t express himself in words as well as he could have. That’s no reason to say he’s sex deprived. Sex isn’t the wonder drug that makes men think clearer people. And it most certainly doesn’t make men talk about women in a "positive only light" whenever we “get some”. This thread was a rant after all.

Anyway, my problem with women has already mentioned by a few people. It’s once again the games (Yes, men play games too). Also, I don’t like the fact that some females ask me to express myself more and talk to them when they themselves won’t do the same.

Cynthetiq 06-16-2003 07:22 AM

I'm not one pushing for a men's lounge, but if there was truly a desire for one, then here are some sample topics on what I'd like to see in it:

Dressing, how do you make the most of your clothing from casual to dress.

Shoes, No you cannot just wear your sneakers to the wedding.

Class, no not ditching them, how to have some.

Men's health related issues from testicular cancer to prostate cancer.

How men show emotions, yes, they have more than just 3.

Apartments do not to look like a Comic Store: Tasteful Decorating

No, I'm not suggesting these because I'm a Christopher Lowell fan, but because these are things that took me time to learn from the time I was in college to now. I had to learn what worked for me.

Not_You 06-16-2003 10:37 AM

Most women aren't worth the trouble. If they want to "play games" and "mind fuck" guys then let them do it to someone else.

And you can't say that guys never do the same thing to girls. It is dangerous to say that it is all their(women) fault when we(men) were the ones to teach them the game.

-keep on pimpin'

~springrain 06-16-2003 11:46 AM

Platinum Blonde...
they are allowed to lurk... just not post... i know it can disconcerting at times... but all in all... i think it's actually a good thing...

Prophecy...
Quote:

Originally posted by Prophecy
Is it just me or does it seem that most of the people in this thread view men as shallow blabbering testosterone filled horn dogs that sit around and scratch…
not all of us... *soft smile*
Quote:

Originally posted by ~springrain
there are many men out here that are awesome individuals... whose posts and opinions i look forward to reading...

THANK YOU... to you guys... and you know who you are... who continue to stand up for us Ladies and continue to make us feel welcome...


denim 06-16-2003 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cynthetiq
Dressing, how do you make the most of your clothing from casual to dress.

Shoes, No you cannot just wear your sneakers to the wedding.

Class, no not ditching them, how to have some.

These questions really require some input from women.

Quote:

Men's health related issues from testicular cancer to prostate cancer.
Real Exciting topic. :D

Quote:

How men show emotions, yes, they have more than just 3.
MORE than 3?? Let's see:
  • horny
  • sleepy
  • ??
Okay, I give up: what's the third?

Quote:

Apartments do not to look like a Comic Store: Tasteful Decorating
Again, this requires a woman's input, since she's the one who's gonna judge it.

I forget which comic said it, but men are generally walking penises. We want pussy. We want it when we're ready for it. Other times, we want to be left alone. :D

cdwonderful 06-16-2003 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ARTelevision


Personally, I appreciate any tolerance we get from them at all because, as a group, we don't deserve it.

I have to agree, sometimes the generosity of women is astounding!

Willowsr 06-16-2003 12:40 PM

Hey y'all! just a few thoughts here....

Mens Lounge? Forget it... What's the point? Because we're inmature little boys that need 'equality of portion?' Please... get over it...

Lurking in the Ladies Lounge? There in lies half your problem... you don't respect the privacy and boundries of others... especially women... which is why you have issues with women...

One thing I hate about women? What ever I might 'hate' about them, like any man, is a pointer to a limitation in Me.

World's King 06-16-2003 12:50 PM

It smells like penis in this thread.

denim 06-16-2003 01:09 PM

Then how come there aren't more women?

spectre 06-16-2003 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by denim
Then how come there aren't more women?
Because the way most people find this site is via the Top Boobies link on fark. That tends to skew the proportion of those that join the site to being mostly male. A number of the women on here were introduced by a significant other, and most of the male population isn't willing to show the site to a SO. That's why the male population vastly outnumbers the female population. The females, however, tend not to fall into the lurking population as easily as the males do, that's why they seem to be more prevalent than their numbers would show.

Lebell 06-16-2003 02:29 PM

Just a few more thoughts,

If you can get over the "us vs. them" mentality, you begin to see that women are *gasp* people.

And as *people* you begin to see that they:

-sometimes have their shit together
-sometimes are fucked up
-sometimes are incredibly kind and loving
-sometimes are very selfish and petty

So forgive me if I rant just a little at the generalizations I see in this thread, because if you can't see that guys are the same way, you are deluding yourself.

So keep that in mind when you read the posts in Ladies Lounge and you can learn a lot about women and why we love them.

GakFace 06-16-2003 02:35 PM

Luckily for me, I don't search for Boobies non-stop and found the site thru a friend.. :)

IF there were to be a "mens forums", then I would hope the topics would be as good as Cyn stated them.

Will: Lurking in the Ladies Lounge? There in lies half your problem... you don't respect the privacy and boundries of others... especially women... which is why you have issues with women... "

Thats one hell of a Generalization you just stated. Ask the ladies, they personally don't mind if we read as long as we don't talk. IF you've ever looked in there, then you'd realize there is A LOT of useful information for any guy. We always say we're confused about stuff.. well shit! That room is our "cheat sheet" if you will. I don't talk, but I do learn... And wouldn't they want that? ;);) Besides, I could twist your generalization around by saying that everytime you look at some porn, you aren't giving them as much respect as you could by just looking at their bodies.... I read It, I admit it, but if I was asked to not.. then I would abide, just as if they asked my opinion.. I'd give it, without being an ass either, mind you. (not implying you were one) Oh and to note, I don't have issues with them. (not in the negative way at least ;))

vermin 06-16-2003 03:03 PM

I went to the Ladies Lounge once and they were talking about penises and periods and icky girl stuff. Yuk!



Quote:

Dressing, how do you make the most of your clothing from casual to dress.

Shoes, No you cannot just wear your sneakers to the wedding.

Class, no not ditching them, how to have some.

Men's health related issues from testicular cancer to prostate cancer.

How men show emotions, yes, they have more than just 3.

Apartments do not to look like a Comic Store: Tasteful Decorating

...these are things that took me time to learn from the time I was in college to now.
Then start some threads on these things 'cause I (apparently) don't know shit about them. We don't need a men's lounge for that.

~springrain 06-16-2003 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GakFace
Will: Lurking in the Ladies Lounge? There in lies half your problem... you don't respect the privacy and boundries of others... especially women... which is why you have issues with women... "
Thats one hell of a Generalization you just stated. Ask the ladies, they personally don't mind if we read as long as we don't talk. IF you've ever looked in there, then you'd realize there is A LOT of useful information for any guy. We always say we're confused about stuff.. well shit! That room is our "cheat sheet" if you will. I don't talk, but I do learn... And wouldn't they want that? ;);) Besides, I could twist your generalization around by saying that everytime you look at some porn, you aren't giving them as much respect as you could by just looking at their bodies.... I read It, I admit it, but if I was asked to not.. then I would abide, just as if they asked my opinion.. I'd give it, without being an ass either, mind you. (not implying you were one) Oh and to note, I don't have issues with them. (not in the negative way at least ;))
i'm going to step in and stand up for Willow here... He is the ultimate respecter of women and stays out of the Ladies Lounge because He knows how i, his wife, feels about "lurkers"... and so He respects that.

i don't mind the respectful lurkers... but there are a few that lurk and then run to the General Discussion whining about the things we've said in there... case in point -- THIS VERY THREAD

Willow simply was trying to stick up for me... and the other Ladies... and tell those men who DO have issue with the LL to take a look at THEMSELVES... and ask themselves why they have such issues with it in the first place...

Sparhawk 06-16-2003 03:19 PM

Great post, Prophecy, I agree 100%.

Generalizations = Bad

GakFace 06-16-2003 03:34 PM

SpringRain
Alright, sorry about that :) Yeah, I (for some ungodly reason) forgot how people post crap after what they read. Funny that i forgot considering this thead is one of them. I will read, but I will also be respectful by shutting the hell up.:)

AND, I didn't mean to be rude to Willow (if thats how it sounded), it just seemed to sound like that everyone who reads in there has an issue, but I digress, sorry for any feelings I may have crossed, none were intended. And yeah he has good respect for you by staying out when you request it. :)

Willowsr 06-16-2003 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GakFace
Luckily for me, I don't search for Boobies non-stop and found the site thru a friend.. :)

IF there were to be a "mens forums", then I would hope the topics would be as good as Cyn stated them.

Will: Lurking in the Ladies Lounge? There in lies half your problem... you don't respect the privacy and boundries of others... especially women... which is why you have issues with women... "

Thats one hell of a Generalization you just stated. Ask the ladies, they personally don't mind if we read as long as we don't talk. IF you've ever looked in there, then you'd realize there is A LOT of useful information for any guy. We always say we're confused about stuff.. well shit! That room is our "cheat sheet" if you will. I don't talk, but I do learn... And wouldn't they want that? ;);) Besides, I could twist your generalization around by saying that everytime you look at some porn, you aren't giving them as much respect as you could by just looking at their bodies.... I read It, I admit it, but if I was asked to not.. then I would abide, just as if they asked my opinion.. I'd give it, without being an ass either, mind you. (not implying you were one) Oh and to note, I don't have issues with them. (not in the negative way at least ;))

GakFace:
I copied this from the Tilted Forum Project index page:
Ladies Lounge
Girls' Night Out. NO MEN ALLOWED!


I respect that... if I have a question to ask of a woman... I ask... I don't hide behind the door and eavesdrop...

Regarding porn? Yep, I look at it... and yes... it is in many ways demeaning to women and sends the wrong message to the viewer that they are looking at some form of a real relationship dynamic... *chuckle*


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