03-17-2007, 06:06 PM | #41 (permalink) |
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No its not a prophecy.......... When someone stated that "Humans Cant Predict The Future", I knew this was a "flawed" statement. With a few simple questions I was able to let other members show why this is so. The future can be predicted, in a limited fashion, but anomalous events are always the wrench in the works. Perhaps those anomalies are what the prophecies are about, although there is no direct evidence.
I was surprised how many assumptions were made. I believe in God, therefore I must be a Christian. A Christian who posts a thread about prophecies associated with a galactic alignment, must believe these prophecies. Way to many assumptions.
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03-17-2007, 07:44 PM | #42 (permalink) |
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You're very right that it wasn't a prophecy. Astronomy has had its math behind it for...a very long time now. Here's hoping some anomaly doesn't fly in and wreck us before we become aware of the nature of things.
(Miust I disagree, still, that someone who believes in god must necessarily be a christian, and that someone who does not must not be one?) Well, I think we could get along well enough except for such distinctions.
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03-17-2007, 07:53 PM | #43 (permalink) |
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Ya get the feeling that somebody wants the last word??? Absolutely Not! You can have the last word....
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03-22-2007, 08:15 AM | #44 (permalink) |
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The only thing you'll see in 2012 is me laughing at a bunch of new-agey saps who have created a bunch of incoherent myths surrounding the Mayan long count.
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09-13-2007, 11:41 AM | #48 (permalink) |
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Cool Burger! OCM has already built a fallout shelter thats impervious to all known anomalous catastrophes! The bastard refuses to share tho.....
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09-13-2007, 01:02 PM | #49 (permalink) |
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wait, the world is ending in 2012? i guess it would be pointless to make babies then...better hold off for at least 6 years, just in case.
maddox is funny, more than funny, but that article (or whatever it's called) on astrology disappointed.
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09-13-2007, 01:24 PM | #51 (permalink) | |
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actually it's the other way around. Science/logic KNOWS full and well that it doesn't know everything. That's why it exists, in order to try to know the universe better and more fully. what's going on in this thread, as I see it, is that Dave is talking beliefs, while those with whom he is arguing, are talking science. the gulf between the two modes of thinking is immeasurable and unspannable. can you not agree, Dave, that there are no empirical data or data trends to suggest that anything out of the ordinary (i.e. one of your "wild card events") is going to happen on Dec 21, 2012? because THAT is what is being suggested, tho in cruder terms (i.e. "astrology is bullshit).
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09-13-2007, 02:00 PM | #53 (permalink) |
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I predict that on 22 December 2012, there will be the Great Disappointment when people wake up and realize that the apocalypse is not upon them and they only have 3 shopping days left.
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09-13-2007, 02:10 PM | #54 (permalink) | |
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actually, you made several suggestions, including the one I quoted. however, no, you did not suggest that anything out of the ordinary is going to happen on the date in question. you merely argued that those who are claiming that there is no logical, empirically supported reason to think that something will happen are using flawed arguments. in point of fact, they are not.
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09-13-2007, 04:44 PM | #56 (permalink) | |
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You win, QuasiMondo! 12-21-12 will come and go with no more noise than any other day. ...our counting makes no difference.
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09-13-2007, 10:41 PM | #57 (permalink) | ||
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Its the date of the final alien invasion! It must be true, I saw it on the X-Files.
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09-15-2007, 01:33 AM | #58 (permalink) | |
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09-15-2007, 08:33 AM | #59 (permalink) | |
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09-15-2007, 10:47 AM | #61 (permalink) |
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An interesting thread... I shall toss in my twopence!
First, as was mentioned a few posts above, logic dictates that we never have certainty over things. Even the "laws" of physics can be broken under the right laboratory experiment. Very little, if anything, is ever assured in life. Secondly, remember that the universe is far bigger than us. While I agree that humans cannot generally predict future events with any amount of success other than what sheer luck brings them, I also believe that certain larger events escape our grasp because we are mortal, and shortly so. How many generations does it take for lessons to be forgotten? Also, keep in mind that your average person today is not nearly as tuned in to the natural (and probably spiritual) world around them as people were hundreds or thousands of years ago. Back in the day, that's all there was. You had to understand the land you farmed, the sea you sailed, the heavens you prayed to as best you could. Today our beliefs are fickle and often unfounded. A healthy dose (if there is such a thing) of wikipedia does not a knowledgeable person make. So, in the end, never say never, anything is possible, and trying to state you are 100% certain one way or the other makes you a gambler or a fool and nothing more.
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09-15-2007, 03:53 PM | #62 (permalink) |
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It may be possible, but is it probable?
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09-15-2007, 08:07 PM | #63 (permalink) |
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Perhaps not, but improbable things actually happen all the time. Is it as likely as the sun rising each morning? I don't think so. That doesn't make it less reasonable to believe there's a chance.
Here's my thing with odds... what are YOUR odds of winning the Power Ball? astronomical. But remember that it's won every couple of weeks by someone. Is it likely that our sun will suddenly go *poof*? No, but stars come and go all the time in the grand scale of things. *shrug*
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09-16-2007, 12:15 AM | #64 (permalink) | |
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the odds are 1 in 146,107,962 of any given ticket winning the big jackpot. however, if 10 million tickets are played, the odds that one of them is the winner are a mere 1 in 14.6.
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09-16-2007, 01:31 AM | #65 (permalink) |
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the odds of a sun blinking out of existence are even more astronomical (pun intended), but given the vast array of stars out there, it's bound to happen. Major astrological events happen all the time. In their own time (which moves far slower than humans really care to understand).
At any rate, I'm not saying 2012 will be anything other than another year. I'm just saying those who staunchly disbelieve it are no more correct than those that take it to heart. Also, sion, your statistics are flawed. It would only be 1 in 14.6 if every one of the 10M tickets had different sets of numbers.
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09-16-2007, 01:34 PM | #67 (permalink) |
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From what I understand we are not in the "End Days" of the calendar, but rather in the no time part. I think the end of the Maya calendar was 1973 or something, and the current cycle is the lead up to a new beginning in 2012. Some people have noted a subtle speed up of time/experience that they assume ties into the time of transition claimed by the Maya. Because of the many myths in agreement on this, there does seem to be reason for the belief in "something".
I admit there is a draw to the concept of ages...but as I don't feel a need to worry about things I don't understand, I will simply keep doing what I do, and try to be happy about it.
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true, but since that's pretty much incalculable... the point is that the odds that there will be a winner are not nearly as astronomical as one might think. many orders of magnitude more likely. Quote:
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09-16-2007, 07:41 PM | #69 (permalink) | |
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09-17-2007, 04:07 PM | #70 (permalink) |
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Galactic alignment won't affect us. I'd bet the farm on that. I'd also bet that we make noise when it doesn't need to be made - like I just did.
What are the odds of us understanding each other? Our universe provides the means, and they won't be any more available to disbelief.
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09-17-2007, 05:19 PM | #71 (permalink) |
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will galactic alignment keep the solar system from pulling to the left on the highway?
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09-18-2007, 02:22 PM | #72 (permalink) |
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I experienced a considerable slowing of time passing last Thursday/Friday, as did all those I spoke to of it. Did gravity get heavier? Did god interfere? Was it one of those shared moments we all long for?
Or was it an effect of the oncoming galactic alignment? Our world might never know.
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09-18-2007, 02:44 PM | #73 (permalink) |
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Just hide out in your anomalous proof fallout shelter OCM, and dont sweat the small shit. God will protect you there, and the collective conscious of the world will hold you close to its bosom. If a stray GRB does fry the entire world and your shelter doesnt work, you can always say you tried......
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09-20-2007, 05:12 AM | #75 (permalink) |
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A Galactic Alignment will happen. Didn't you read the thread???
Seriously, I don't believe that day will be the end of the world, or anything even close. Aliens wont invade, no GRB, no tsunamis or earthquake storms, but there is a chance it could snow. If people really did believe that day would be their last, that wouldn't be such a bad thing. If I knew I only had a few years to live, I would fill my life up to the very brim, with everything that brings me joy & happiness. If others did the same, that wouldn't suck. Unless murder & mayhem brings you happiness...
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09-20-2007, 06:02 AM | #77 (permalink) | |
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if we actually KNEW that this particular day (or any specific day, for that matter) would be the end of the world, and there was nothing we could do about it, people would quit planning for the future and start living in the present. which, in theory, wouldnt be a bad idea, until you consider that many (most?) are generally law abiding only for fear of spending years in jail. I think civilization would begin to degenerate immediately upon learning of such news, and the degeneration would accelerate as the impending day drew nearer and nearer. by the final 6 months, the entire planet would be in utter chaos, with murder and mayhem being the rule rather than the exception.
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09-20-2007, 06:26 AM | #78 (permalink) | |
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No doubt Sion, if we knew a ELE asteroid was on the way, I'm sure that scenario would soon follow.
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