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ShaniFaye · 07-09-2008, 02:40 PM

jewels, patsy died 2 years ago of ovarian cancer

jewels · 07-09-2008, 02:45 PM

Hi SF! I remember that, but did they have problem prior? Or am I thinking of someone else?

ShaniFaye · 07-09-2008, 02:55 PM

Hey

they were still married when she died, to my knowledge they had no problems (between themselves)

yellowmac · 07-09-2008, 07:44 PM

So I guess that's why it made headlines today: the media was trying to make up for all of the suspicions and negative publicity cast on the family. Perhaps they were trying to make amends?

It's pretty sad, too. I took a look at the headline and literally thought, "that case is still going on??"

jewels · 07-10-2008, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ShaniFaye

... they were still married when she died, to my knowledge they had no problems (between themselves)

I saw him on the news last night. How awful an ordeal it must have been for them.

Poppinjay · 07-10-2008, 03:01 AM

BTW, John Mark Carr is now engaged to a 23 year old, the first time he's ever pledged to marry someone of legal age.

I wonder what she sees in him?

ShaniFaye · 07-10-2008, 03:04 AM

Jewels, I dont know how "in your face" it was elsewhere (besides Colorado) but since they lived here (and JB was buried here) everything that family did was on the news here, I wont say that I never thought they did it, I think a lot of people were doubtful but with the Susan Smith case, it proved anything is possible, but that poor family had more than their fair share of shit to put up with.

Tully Mars · 07-10-2008, 06:34 AM

I heard Mr. Ramsey on some show last night. He sounded like "well, i'm just glad there's progress and I'm hopeful a suspect, the responsible person, can now be found." He didn't sound bitter at all, least not to me. I got to tell you I think I'd be one bitter old man by this point. I think I be on the news saying "I fucking told you so, all you fucking reporters and most of the LE folks had us convicted in the court of public opinion years ago. Well, fuck you. My wife went to her grave with many folks thinking she killed a person she loved dearly."

I have to admit I thought they probably were good for it. I remember talking to other officers about this at the time and the main consensus seemed to be "yeah, they did it but the crime scene guys screwed it up so bad they'll never get a conviction."

I think of all the news reports I saw only one made it sound like "you know there's a real possibility some unknown person did enter the house and kill the child." All the rest seemed to say "seriously, what are the odds?" Of course I'm no expert on the case and didn't really follow it that closely, there may have been a ton of reports that made it sound like they might not have done it.

Miss Mango · 07-10-2008, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Poppinjay

BTW, John Mark Carr is now engaged to a 23 year old, the first time he\'s ever pledged to marry someone of legal age.

I wonder what she sees in him?

If I remember correctly, she has a 3 year old daughter. I would assume that is what he sees in her.... ugh!

Tully Mars · 07-10-2008, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Mango

If I remember correctly, she has a 3 year old daughter. I would assume that is what he sees in her.... ugh!

Bingo!

Wish I didn't think you were dead on here. I don't understand these people that get involved with known fuck wads. I think I read somewhere that Richard Ramirez, the serial killer, was married in prison.

I don't get it.

Bill O'Rights · 07-10-2008, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Tully Mars

I don't get it.

Uh-huh.

And, that's a good thing.

Strange Famous · 07-11-2008, 02:13 PM

The whole case is just sad.

I remember seeing a documentary about the Carr guy maybe a year or more ago and that he confessed to some journalist?

I know every famous crime gets a lot of fake confessions... but if there if it is known that this guy IS the killer, and its one of those cases when they know but they just dont have the proof to bring it to court... is there any real reason not to simply shoot him in the street like a dog?

I mean, I understand police state and pretty dangerous precedents and all... but if a guy who raped and killed a 6 year old kid is killed, who actually is going to care or seek "justice"?

__

Like when the police found that girl who got kidnapped (Elizabeth something?) for over a year and was constantly abused and raped... if I was one of the people who came to the scene with the guy who did that shit to her I'd have shot him dead where he stood. Who is ever gonna prosecute you for it? And why should that girl always live with the nightmare that he might get out one day and might come back for her? If it is that big of a deal you could just put him in the back of a car, drive him back to the jailhouse and throttle him, then say "oops he hanged himself" I suppose.

07-09-2008, 02:40 PM	#81 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	jewels, patsy died 2 years ago of ovarian cancer __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

07-09-2008, 02:45 PM	#82 (permalink)
jewels Eponymous Location: Central Central Florida	Hi SF! I remember that, but did they have problem prior? Or am I thinking of someone else? __________________ We are always more anxious to be distinguished for a talent which we do not possess, than to be praised for the fifteen which we do possess. Mark Twain

07-09-2008, 02:55 PM	#83 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	Hey they were still married when she died, to my knowledge they had no problems (between themselves) __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

07-10-2008, 03:01 AM	#86 (permalink)
Poppinjay You had me at hello Location: DC/Coastal VA	BTW, John Mark Carr is now engaged to a 23 year old, the first time he's ever pledged to marry someone of legal age. I wonder what she sees in him? __________________ I think the Apocalypse is happening all around us. We go on eating desserts and watching TV. I know I do. I wish we were more capable of sustained passion and sustained resistance. We should be screaming and what we do is gossip. -Lydia Millet

07-10-2008, 03:04 AM	#87 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	Jewels, I dont know how "in your face" it was elsewhere (besides Colorado) but since they lived here (and JB was buried here) everything that family did was on the news here, I wont say that I never thought they did it, I think a lot of people were doubtful but with the Susan Smith case, it proved anything is possible, but that poor family had more than their fair share of shit to put up with. __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

07-09-2008, 07:44 PM	#84 (permalink)
yellowmac Insane Location: left coast	So I guess that's why it made headlines today: the media was trying to make up for all of the suspicions and negative publicity cast on the family. Perhaps they were trying to make amends? It's pretty sad, too. I took a look at the headline and literally thought, "that case is still going on??"

07-10-2008, 06:34 AM	#88 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	I heard Mr. Ramsey on some show last night. He sounded like "well, i'm just glad there's progress and I'm hopeful a suspect, the responsible person, can now be found." He didn't sound bitter at all, least not to me. I got to tell you I think I'd be one bitter old man by this point. I think I be on the news saying "I fucking told you so, all you fucking reporters and most of the LE folks had us convicted in the court of public opinion years ago. Well, fuck you. My wife went to her grave with many folks thinking she killed a person she loved dearly." I have to admit I thought they probably were good for it. I remember talking to other officers about this at the time and the main consensus seemed to be "yeah, they did it but the crime scene guys screwed it up so bad they'll never get a conviction." I think of all the news reports I saw only one made it sound like "you know there's a real possibility some unknown person did enter the house and kill the child." All the rest seemed to say "seriously, what are the odds?" Of course I'm no expert on the case and didn't really follow it that closely, there may have been a ton of reports that made it sound like they might not have done it. __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

07-11-2008, 02:13 PM	#92 (permalink)
Strange Famous follower of the child's crusade?	The whole case is just sad. I remember seeing a documentary about the Carr guy maybe a year or more ago and that he confessed to some journalist? I know every famous crime gets a lot of fake confessions... but if there if it is known that this guy IS the killer, and its one of those cases when they know but they just dont have the proof to bring it to court... is there any real reason not to simply shoot him in the street like a dog? I mean, I understand police state and pretty dangerous precedents and all... but if a guy who raped and killed a 6 year old kid is killed, who actually is going to care or seek "justice"? __ Like when the police found that girl who got kidnapped (Elizabeth something?) for over a year and was constantly abused and raped... if I was one of the people who came to the scene with the guy who did that shit to her I'd have shot him dead where he stood. Who is ever gonna prosecute you for it? And why should that girl always live with the nightmare that he might get out one day and might come back for her? If it is that big of a deal you could just put him in the back of a car, drive him back to the jailhouse and throttle him, then say "oops he hanged himself" I suppose. __________________ "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas