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hagatha · 04-22-2006, 04:04 AM

Last night over dinner with Lucifer and Tivabella (I think that's her handle, my apologies if I got it wrong) I posed the question: If you could stalk any celebrity, living or dead, who would it be?
My response: Jensen Ackles from tv's Supernatural (just because he's serious eye candy) and Oliver Reed (deceased). The latter being my childhood idea of male perfection....a rogue (you may recall the Three Muskateers movies with Rachel Welsh and Michael York) but chivalrous with piercing blue eyes and beautiful features. I think I would be one of those stalkers who goes through the garbage to find stuff I could put in a stalking scrapbook...maybe I would take a lot of pics and have one of those stalking rooms with images of my obsession all over the wall with a life size cut out at the entrance. You know, like the ones you see on those cheesy made for tv movies.

El Pollo · 04-22-2006, 05:45 AM

I believe stalking a dead celebrity would be pretty easy. But getting new material for your stalker scrapbook, well now that would be tough.

Charlatan · 04-22-2006, 07:11 AM

I've never been one to get all excited about celebrities. Because I am in the business, I see them from time to time. On my flight home from Cannes a few weeks ago, I was in line with Dennis Haysbert (plays the president on 24). We were in the check in line together (he was behind me). We were in the lounge together, the line to get on the plane and then were never more than 15 feet apart as we transfered planes in Munich. The topper was when I was in the bathroom with him three urinals away.

I began to wonder if he was stalking me.

Thankfully in Munich, after we went through the security gate he wandered off to the gate for LA and I was going to Toronto.

While we were standing in line together I almost made the corny quip, "What, you couldn't get Air Force One to pick you up?"

I don't think I would be the type to stalk anyone.

blahblah454 · 04-22-2006, 07:17 AM

I couldn't care less about "celebrities". In fact I don't like to call them that at all, because all they are is some hack (generally) reading lines and acting crap out to entertain the masses, why would I celebrate them? Or "stars", I get a kick out of people calling them that too. To me stars are bright objects that I look up to, actors I most defanitly do not look up to.
But musicians on the other hand, I wouldn't go so far as to stalk any, but I would love to meet some of them and just get them to show me a few tricks or two. And by musicians I don't mean that crap that is played on the radio, I am talking about people who can actually play their instruments and don't just bang out top 10's and use the formula that is ever-so popular at the current moment in time. I would love to get some banjo lessons from Bela Fleck, or some composition tips from Arjen Lucassen.

mixedmedia · 04-22-2006, 07:26 AM

Well, there's no one I can think of right off hand that I would like to stalk, but I did see that Three Musketeers movie when I was 10-12 years old, several times, and yes, I was quite fond of Oliver Reed in that film. mmmmmm.

I saw that movie again not long ago, and it's actually quite good, too.

maleficent · 04-22-2006, 07:26 AM

I'm too lazy to stalk a person I don't know... I'd much rather stalk real people that I do know... it's way more fun... (charlatan... I love that new shower curtain - it was so easy to hide behind this morning...

ngdawg · 04-22-2006, 07:44 AM

I loved Oliver Reed as well-sexy, overweight bad boy that he was..

I couldn't be a stalker, but I am a starer. Ww were driving up the NJ turnpike alongside a red pick-up truck and I kept staring at the driver-it was Bruce Springsteen. Once I realized that and told the spouse, pointing to the truck, Bruce noticed my pointing at him and took off like a shot.
At the Knoxville airport, sitting waiting from my flight, I saw David Keith standing by the wall with a toddler in a stroller, chatting up a maintenance man. I stared, I probably drooled a bit, but that's as far as I got. Even had my camera hanging off my neck, but my nerve was nowhere to be found.
I've been stalked, but that was just a whacko ex.

Charlatan · 04-22-2006, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by maleficent

(charlatan... I love that new shower curtain - it was so easy to hide behind this morning...

Then you must have seen the wood I was sporting... the least you could have done was lend a hand.

CSflim · 04-22-2006, 01:01 PM

Another vote for the "couldn't care less about celebrities" camp.

I mean, honestly, I don't see what all the fuss is about.....

Gatorade Frost · 04-22-2006, 01:10 PM

The whole cast of Firefly and Joss Whedon.

Otherwise celebrities don't really do anything for me. There are a few I'd like meeting, but there are n't really people that I'd want to stalk.

Lucifer · 04-22-2006, 02:25 PM

Amy Acker in "fred mode" from Angel. she's my type of woman, geeky and gawky

Charlatan · 04-23-2006, 04:34 AM

That's a good one Lucifer...

Sultana · 04-23-2006, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Gatorade Frost

The whole cast of Firefly and Joss Whedon.

Hello, yeah!
Sign me up.

I don't read the OP as "What celebs would you stalk if you could?", but more as "If you stalked a celeb, which one would it be?", see?

fresnelly · 04-23-2006, 05:55 AM

Apparently there are a number of websites that use Google maps/earth to chart celebrity whereabouts. If you spot a celebrity, say at a coffee shop, you can go online and pin a location.

To me, there's a big difference between "I totally saw Caleb McCeleb at Starbucks yesterday!" and "Alert, Alert! Caleb McCeleb is at the Starbucks at Hollywood and Vine right now! Hey is buying a low-fat mocca macciato!" Furthermore, these sights can be used to establish location patterns for the truly obsessive.

I understand the shock of seeing fantasy people in real life, but I also respect their right to some time off from being in the spotlight.

mixedmedia · 04-23-2006, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Sultana

Hello, yeah!
Sign me up.

I don't read the OP as "What celebs would you stalk if you could?", but more as "If you stalked a celeb, which one would it be?", see?

ohhhhhh, well in that case....Jon Stewart.

TivaBella · 04-24-2006, 01:42 PM

Hey Hagatha. Yes, it was me at dinner with you and Lucifer. As I mentioned that evening, I'm not really into celebrities, but if I were to stalk anyone it would be John Cusack. I'm not sure what it is about him but - hmmmm.....

cellophanedeity · 04-25-2006, 12:47 PM

Jewel Staite or Ani Difranco.

Or maybe Angelina Jolie. Just to travel a bit

BigBen · 04-25-2006, 01:03 PM

Willem Dafoe.

Or the Cohen Brothers.

Zeraph · 04-25-2006, 01:26 PM

I wouldn't mind meeting a few but I have no desire to stalk anyone whatsoever, we're all human. Unless it was to jump out and scare them...I like sneaking up on people, I know it's not cool, but I'm so good at it!

Ninja smoke bomb, commence! *Flashes away*

Poppinjay · 04-25-2006, 02:51 PM

I could so easily sit down and have coffee with Pink. Ever since "Stupid Girls" I feel like we have a lot in common.

Of course, I felt the same way about Shirley Manson after Garbage released "Stupid Girl", and before that Edie Brickell when she released "Little Miss S In A Mini-Dress", and those restraining orders are still place.

Okay, since seeing Lisa Loeb's ass in that other thread, I'd stalk her.

JumpinJesus · 04-25-2006, 08:21 PM

If I were to stalk a celebrity, I would want it to be someone who's never had a stalker before. I'd want to do it as a sort of favor to help with esteem issues. You know, some D-List celebrity who's never had a stalker.

With that in mind, I think I'd stalk Bronson Pinchot. I'd make phone calls where I'd use the voice he used when he played the art gallery worker in "Beverly Hills Cop." I'd leave mysterious notes where I'd sign them "Love, a Perfect Stranger"

I think he'd appreciate having a stalker.

Sultana · 04-26-2006, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JumpinJesus

If I were to stalk a celebrity, I would want it to be someone who's never had a stalker before. I'd want to do it as a sort of favor to help with esteem issues. You know, some D-List celebrity who's never had a stalker.

With that in mind, I think I'd stalk Bronson Pinchot. I'd make phone calls where I'd use the voice he used when he played the art gallery worker in "Beverly Hills Cop." I'd leave mysterious notes where I'd sign them "Love, a Perfect Stranger"

I think he'd appreciate having a stalker.

Wow, you'd be the most thoughtful stalker evar!

I'm considered something of a celeb in my tiny circle... ;P

Charlatan · 04-26-2006, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TivaBella

Hey Hagatha. Yes, it was me at dinner with you and Lucifer. As I mentioned that evening, I'm not really into celebrities, but if I were to stalk anyone it would be John Cusack. I'm not sure what it is about him but - hmmmm.....

Speaking of John Cusack... back in the 90s he spent a lot of time in Toronto (filming, attending festivals, etc.). A couple of my friends used to run into him at Film Festival parties or in the club where we used to hang out. Everytime they saw him, they would flip a coin to see who would go up and stand beside him and after a few moments, nod at him and say in a very cool voice, "Heeey. Lloyd Dobbler... alright..."

I never took part in these actions but did witness one of the six or seven times they did this to him. Cusack wasn't amused... but we sure were.

ash · 04-26-2006, 02:13 PM

if i were to stalk a celebrity i would stalk bigben

majik_6 · 04-26-2006, 11:30 PM

JumpinJesus: That has to be one of the funniest things I've read today! I actually had a discussion about Bronson Pinchot at work the other day, believe it or not.

I think I'd be most likely to stalk David Copperfield...or Ben Gibbard. Though, ideally, I'd just like to meet them and have a nice conversation. I've idolized Copperfield since childhood, and have had the priviledge of being called on stage with him twice. Gibbard's a fairly new interest, but I seriously think he's on of the most gifted lyricists in the last 15 years.

TivaBella · 04-27-2006, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JumpinJesus

If I were to stalk a celebrity, I would want it to be someone who's never had a stalker before. I'd want to do it as a sort of favor to help with esteem issues. You know, some D-List celebrity who's never had a stalker.

With that in mind, I think I'd stalk Bronson Pinchot. I'd make phone calls where I'd use the voice he used when he played the art gallery worker in "Beverly Hills Cop." I'd leave mysterious notes where I'd sign them "Love, a Perfect Stranger"

I think he'd appreciate having a stalker.

This is one of the sweetest things I have ever read. I think I am tearing up just a bit. Mind you, if you are going to go obscure - what about that kid that played Tootie on The Facts of Life. She is probably due for a mercy stalking.

hagatha · 04-30-2006, 11:13 AM

This posting in no way was ever meant to endorse, promote or encourage any form of stalking or intense watching of celebrities of any kind.

ShaniFaye · 04-30-2006, 11:45 AM

Laurence Llewelyn-Bowen from bbc's Changing Rooms fame

sunkssd · 05-02-2006, 06:24 AM

I don't really get into actors/actresses. I am more of a sports girl so I would stalk Tom Brady. He is beautiful.

ratbastid · 05-02-2006, 09:55 AM

I met Elvis Costello once. He was buying pizza at a pizza shop in the terminal of the Dallas/Fort Worth airport, about three people ahead of me in line. He was wearing his trademark specs, and carrying a big black doctors' bag with "ELVIS" in needlepoint on it. I figured he wasn't trying to be low-profile, so after he sat down at a table, I went up to him and said, "Excuse me, Mr. Costello, I'm sorry to disturb your dinner, but I'd sure like to shake your hand." He grinned at me, we shook hands, and I thanked him and went on my way. That's as close to celebrity-stalking as I've ever come.

Now... If Jessica Alba moved in next door to me, I'd go straight into full-on stalker buy-a-telescope-and-set-it-up-to-peek-into-her-bedroom mode.

damianjames · 05-03-2006, 09:01 PM

I used to work room service in a hotel when I was young, and I'd go out of my way to grab the orders for celebs I knew were staying there. When stripped of their public persona, half-asleep and angry they're in a hotel instead of their own bed, some real insight on them can be gained through quick observation.

Random thoughts:

Paul Newman was just about the nicest guy I've ever met, celebrity or otherwise. Without all the makeup he's all wrinkly, soft-spoken, and kind. He'd make a good grandpa.

Susan Powder, the Stop the Insanity diet lady, was just as high-strung in her hotel room as on TV. She really frightened me.

Lou Ferrigno was an absolute jackass.

Chris Rock seemed to have let success go to his head. He had his giant of a bodyguard order his food for him (this was in our restaurant) and didn't say a word, just held his nose up.

Mario Andretti was the same way, thought he was God's gift to all the employees of my hotel. His son was a bit nicer though.

My all-time favorite had to be Terry Porter when he was still playing for the Portland Trailblazers. Coolest rich guy I've ever met.

Nowadays? It'd have to be Ben Affleck. I'd constantly be whispering behind his back about how horrible an actor he is. If I'm quiet enough maybe he'll think it's his conscience and he'll go back to making hair replacement product commercials in a foreign country.

04-22-2006, 04:04 AM	#1 (permalink)
hagatha Addict	Celebrity Stalking Last night over dinner with Lucifer and Tivabella (I think that's her handle, my apologies if I got it wrong) I posed the question: If you could stalk any celebrity, living or dead, who would it be? My response: Jensen Ackles from tv's Supernatural (just because he's serious eye candy) and Oliver Reed (deceased). The latter being my childhood idea of male perfection....a rogue (you may recall the Three Muskateers movies with Rachel Welsh and Michael York) but chivalrous with piercing blue eyes and beautiful features. I think I would be one of those stalkers who goes through the garbage to find stuff I could put in a stalking scrapbook...maybe I would take a lot of pics and have one of those stalking rooms with images of my obsession all over the wall with a life size cut out at the entrance. You know, like the ones you see on those cheesy made for tv movies.

04-22-2006, 07:11 AM	#3 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	I've never been one to get all excited about celebrities. Because I am in the business, I see them from time to time. On my flight home from Cannes a few weeks ago, I was in line with Dennis Haysbert (plays the president on 24). We were in the check in line together (he was behind me). We were in the lounge together, the line to get on the plane and then were never more than 15 feet apart as we transfered planes in Munich. The topper was when I was in the bathroom with him three urinals away. I began to wonder if he was stalking me. Thankfully in Munich, after we went through the security gate he wandered off to the gate for LA and I was going to Toronto. While we were standing in line together I almost made the corny quip, "What, you couldn't get Air Force One to pick you up?" I don't think I would be the type to stalk anyone. __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

04-22-2006, 07:26 AM	#6 (permalink)
maleficent Junkie Moderator Emeritus Location: Chicago	I'm too lazy to stalk a person I don't know... I'd much rather stalk real people that I do know... it's way more fun... (charlatan... I love that new shower curtain - it was so easy to hide behind this morning... __________________ Free your heart from hatred. Free your mind from worries. Live simply. Give more. Expect less.

04-22-2006, 07:44 AM	#7 (permalink)
ngdawg peekaboo Location: on the back, bitch	I loved Oliver Reed as well-sexy, overweight bad boy that he was.. I couldn't be a stalker, but I am a starer. Ww were driving up the NJ turnpike alongside a red pick-up truck and I kept staring at the driver-it was Bruce Springsteen. Once I realized that and told the spouse, pointing to the truck, Bruce noticed my pointing at him and took off like a shot. At the Knoxville airport, sitting waiting from my flight, I saw David Keith standing by the wall with a toddler in a stroller, chatting up a maintenance man. I stared, I probably drooled a bit, but that's as far as I got. Even had my camera hanging off my neck, but my nerve was nowhere to be found. I've been stalked, but that was just a whacko ex. __________________ Don't blame me. I didn't vote for either of'em.

04-22-2006, 01:01 PM	#9 (permalink)
CSflim Sky Piercer Location: Ireland	Another vote for the "couldn't care less about celebrities" camp. I mean, honestly, I don't see what all the fuss is about..... __________________

04-22-2006, 05:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
El Pollo Insane Location: Austin, TX	I believe stalking a dead celebrity would be pretty easy. But getting new material for your stalker scrapbook, well now that would be tough.

04-22-2006, 07:17 AM	#4 (permalink)
blahblah454 Let's put a smile on that face Location: On the road...	I couldn't care less about "celebrities". In fact I don't like to call them that at all, because all they are is some hack (generally) reading lines and acting crap out to entertain the masses, why would I celebrate them? Or "stars", I get a kick out of people calling them that too. To me stars are bright objects that I look up to, actors I most defanitly do not look up to. But musicians on the other hand, I wouldn't go so far as to stalk any, but I would love to meet some of them and just get them to show me a few tricks or two. And by musicians I don't mean that crap that is played on the radio, I am talking about people who can actually play their instruments and don't just bang out top 10's and use the formula that is ever-so popular at the current moment in time. I would love to get some banjo lessons from Bela Fleck, or some composition tips from Arjen Lucassen.

04-22-2006, 07:26 AM	#5 (permalink)
mixedmedia has all her shots. Location: Florida	Well, there's no one I can think of right off hand that I would like to stalk, but I did see that Three Musketeers movie when I was 10-12 years old, several times, and yes, I was quite fond of Oliver Reed in that film. mmmmmm. I saw that movie again not long ago, and it's actually quite good, too.

04-22-2006, 01:10 PM	#10 (permalink)
Gatorade Frost Rookie	The whole cast of Firefly and Joss Whedon. Otherwise celebrities don't really do anything for me. There are a few I'd like meeting, but there are n't really people that I'd want to stalk. __________________ I got in a fight one time with a really big guy, and he said, "I'm going to mop the floor with your face." I said, "You'll be sorry." He said, "Oh, yeah? Why?" I said, "Well, you won't be able to get into the corners very well." Emo Philips

04-22-2006, 02:25 PM	#11 (permalink)
Lucifer Husband of Seamaiden Location: Nova Scotia	Amy Acker in "fred mode" from Angel. she's my type of woman, geeky and gawky __________________ I am a brother to dragons, and a companion to owls. - Job 30:29 1123, 6536, 5321

04-23-2006, 04:34 AM	#12 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	That's a good one Lucifer... __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

04-23-2006, 05:55 AM	#14 (permalink)
fresnelly Functionally Appropriate Location: Toronto	Apparently there are a number of websites that use Google maps/earth to chart celebrity whereabouts. If you spot a celebrity, say at a coffee shop, you can go online and pin a location. To me, there's a big difference between "I totally saw Caleb McCeleb at Starbucks yesterday!" and "Alert, Alert! Caleb McCeleb is at the Starbucks at Hollywood and Vine right now! Hey is buying a low-fat mocca macciato!" Furthermore, these sights can be used to establish location patterns for the truly obsessive. I understand the shock of seeing fantasy people in real life, but I also respect their right to some time off from being in the spotlight. __________________ Building an artificial intelligence that appreciates Mozart is easy. Building an A.I. that appreciates a theme restaurant is the real challenge - Kit Roebuck - Nine Planets Without Intelligent Life

04-24-2006, 01:42 PM	#16 (permalink)
TivaBella Tilted	Hey Hagatha. Yes, it was me at dinner with you and Lucifer. As I mentioned that evening, I'm not really into celebrities, but if I were to stalk anyone it would be John Cusack. I'm not sure what it is about him but - hmmmm..... __________________ It's all falling into place. Of course that place is nowhere near this place. Buffy - "Gingerbread"

04-25-2006, 12:47 PM	#17 (permalink)
cellophanedeity Heliotrope Location: A warm room	Jewel Staite or Ani Difranco. Or maybe Angelina Jolie. Just to travel a bit __________________ who am I to refuse the universe? -Leonard Cohen, Beautiful Losers

04-25-2006, 01:03 PM	#18 (permalink)
BigBen Comedian Location: Use the search button	Willem Dafoe. Or the Cohen Brothers. __________________ 3.141592654 Hey, if you are impressed with my memorizing pi to 10 digits, you should see the size of my penis.

04-25-2006, 01:26 PM	#19 (permalink)
Zeraph Banned Location: The Cosmos	I wouldn't mind meeting a few but I have no desire to stalk anyone whatsoever, we're all human. Unless it was to jump out and scare them...I like sneaking up on people, I know it's not cool, but I'm so good at it! Ninja smoke bomb, commence! Flashes away

04-25-2006, 02:51 PM	#20 (permalink)
Poppinjay You had me at hello Location: DC/Coastal VA	I could so easily sit down and have coffee with Pink. Ever since "Stupid Girls" I feel like we have a lot in common. Of course, I felt the same way about Shirley Manson after Garbage released "Stupid Girl", and before that Edie Brickell when she released "Little Miss S In A Mini-Dress", and those restraining orders are still place. Okay, since seeing Lisa Loeb's ass in that other thread, I'd stalk her. __________________ I think the Apocalypse is happening all around us. We go on eating desserts and watching TV. I know I do. I wish we were more capable of sustained passion and sustained resistance. We should be screaming and what we do is gossip. -Lydia Millet

04-25-2006, 08:21 PM	#21 (permalink)
JumpinJesus Junkie Location: Chicago	If I were to stalk a celebrity, I would want it to be someone who's never had a stalker before. I'd want to do it as a sort of favor to help with esteem issues. You know, some D-List celebrity who's never had a stalker. With that in mind, I think I'd stalk Bronson Pinchot. I'd make phone calls where I'd use the voice he used when he played the art gallery worker in "Beverly Hills Cop." I'd leave mysterious notes where I'd sign them "Love, a Perfect Stranger" I think he'd appreciate having a stalker. __________________ "I can normally tell how intelligent a man is by how stupid he thinks I am" - Cormac McCarthy, All The Pretty Horses

04-26-2006, 02:13 PM	#24 (permalink)
ash Upright Location: texas	if i were to stalk a celebrity i would stalk bigben __________________ "somepeoplesay"

04-26-2006, 11:30 PM	#25 (permalink)
majik_6 narcissist Location: looking in a mirror	JumpinJesus: That has to be one of the funniest things I've read today! I actually had a discussion about Bronson Pinchot at work the other day, believe it or not. I think I'd be most likely to stalk David Copperfield...or Ben Gibbard. Though, ideally, I'd just like to meet them and have a nice conversation. I've idolized Copperfield since childhood, and have had the priviledge of being called on stage with him twice. Gibbard's a fairly new interest, but I seriously think he's on of the most gifted lyricists in the last 15 years. __________________ it's all about self-indulgence

04-30-2006, 11:13 AM	#27 (permalink)
hagatha Addict	This posting in no way was ever meant to endorse, promote or encourage any form of stalking or intense watching of celebrities of any kind.

04-30-2006, 11:45 AM	#28 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	Laurence Llewelyn-Bowen from bbc's Changing Rooms fame __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

05-02-2006, 06:24 AM	#29 (permalink)
sunkssd Upright Location: MI	I don't really get into actors/actresses. I am more of a sports girl so I would stalk Tom Brady. He is beautiful.

05-02-2006, 09:55 AM	#30 (permalink)
ratbastid Darth Papa Location: Yonder	I met Elvis Costello once. He was buying pizza at a pizza shop in the terminal of the Dallas/Fort Worth airport, about three people ahead of me in line. He was wearing his trademark specs, and carrying a big black doctors' bag with "ELVIS" in needlepoint on it. I figured he wasn't trying to be low-profile, so after he sat down at a table, I went up to him and said, "Excuse me, Mr. Costello, I'm sorry to disturb your dinner, but I'd sure like to shake your hand." He grinned at me, we shook hands, and I thanked him and went on my way. That's as close to celebrity-stalking as I've ever come. Now... If Jessica Alba moved in next door to me, I'd go straight into full-on stalker buy-a-telescope-and-set-it-up-to-peek-into-her-bedroom mode.

05-03-2006, 09:01 PM	#31 (permalink)
damianjames Insane Location: Vancouver. No, the OTHER Vancouver	I used to work room service in a hotel when I was young, and I'd go out of my way to grab the orders for celebs I knew were staying there. When stripped of their public persona, half-asleep and angry they're in a hotel instead of their own bed, some real insight on them can be gained through quick observation. Random thoughts: Paul Newman was just about the nicest guy I've ever met, celebrity or otherwise. Without all the makeup he's all wrinkly, soft-spoken, and kind. He'd make a good grandpa. Susan Powder, the Stop the Insanity diet lady, was just as high-strung in her hotel room as on TV. She really frightened me. Lou Ferrigno was an absolute jackass. Chris Rock seemed to have let success go to his head. He had his giant of a bodyguard order his food for him (this was in our restaurant) and didn't say a word, just held his nose up. Mario Andretti was the same way, thought he was God's gift to all the employees of my hotel. His son was a bit nicer though. My all-time favorite had to be Terry Porter when he was still playing for the Portland Trailblazers. Coolest rich guy I've ever met. Nowadays? It'd have to be Ben Affleck. I'd constantly be whispering behind his back about how horrible an actor he is. If I'm quiet enough maybe he'll think it's his conscience and he'll go back to making hair replacement product commercials in a foreign country. __________________ Visualize Whirled Peas.