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Redlemon 04-18-2006 07:35 AM

Placenta eating is more common than you might think.

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Originally Posted by Placentophagy - Wikipedia
Although the placenta is revered in many cultures, very few customarily eat the placenta after the newborn's birth. Those who advocate placentophagy in humans, mostly in modern America and Europe believe that eating the placenta prevents postpartum depression and other pregnancy complications. Human placenta tastes very similar to beef, with a springy texture similar to the heart.

I understand that it's the only meat that (some) vegetarians can eat, because it can be "harvested" without resulting in the death of the host.

ShaniFaye 04-18-2006 07:48 AM

I remember and episode of the two fat ladies cooking show that I saw years ago where they took frozen placenta and prepared it to eat.

Having seen the one from when I had my daughter, I can honestly say I'd have to be starving with no hope of any other food ever again to eat it.

ClostGoth 04-18-2006 08:14 AM

Hubbard wasn't the first - other science fiction/fantasy writers have created (or aped) "religions". Usually just as a writing tool when they're developing their civilization. So why is Scientology different? Is it the money making potential exclusively that turned it into a "religion" with practitioners? As an interesting side note... I recently read Orson Scott Card's Homecoming series - it basically rewrites the book of Mormon. No joke. Mojodragon and I had fun comparing the two and poking fun at it. I wonder if I could get away with writing a book based on the Koran or something. *grin*

Two of my three births were drug-free. Could I have remained quiet? No way! Did I curse or blame my husband? No (in fact, during the worst where the infant was in a transverse position I used him as my focus when I was sure I was about to die). Was any psychological damage done to my infants? :hmm:

itch vaccine 04-18-2006 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Its called 'career move'.

Never again will anyone say 'Katie who?'


We will all go Katie "Spouse-of-the-psycho-husband" Cruise ? :lol:

Ustwo 04-18-2006 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by itch vaccine
We will all go Katie "Spouse-of-the-psycho-husband" Cruise ? :lol:

followed by....

Yea shes staring in (insert vapid movie remake of holywood classic), I hear shes getting (insert insane amount of money), I'm so glad she left Tom Cruise, he was wrong for her.

snowy 04-18-2006 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Sultana
Please, please let him be joking. Sometimes, people joke. I pray this is one of those times.

Where is the barfing smiley?

Yes, he was joking. This is just another example of the popular press taking some little tidbit in a larger article entirely out of context. Now, I'm not saying Tom Cruise isn't crazy--I think, especially in regards to his opinions on medications, he is nuts. But as for eating the placenta--several articles have popped up on Google News this morning with a fuller quote from the original GQ article that does show that Cruise was joking around.

Stiltzkin 04-19-2006 08:53 PM

Just to spite this belief, when I have a wife some day and if/when she gets pregnant, I'm going to encourage her to scream to her heart's content.

Gatorade Frost 04-19-2006 09:03 PM

If anyone wants to see a placenta, check it out: http://static.flickr.com/40/131725971_ff95d35746_o.jpg

I don't think I could ever eat that knowing what it is, but it does look like something that would be edible if need be.

In regard to the keeping silent, there's been a lot said between now and the beginning, but I'll throw this in anyway since I don't know if it's been said. In the psychology course I'm taking they've made it very clear that a baby's brain hasn't formed enough to remember anything from birth like pain or the screaming. People who talk about that kind of thing are pretty influenced by Freud, who isn't the best source on psychological information.

highthief 04-20-2006 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Knowing a Holywood insider it is true, and when ever you closet who you are it leads to odd behavior.

BTW who you 'bag' means very little when you are in the closet. Close friend of my family, is a drop dead gorgeous women, three beautiful kids, married to a very wealthy psychiatrist. Turned out he had an apartment downtown with a boyfriend as well.

Wow.

(btw is saying 'wow' in disbelief a new thing on the net. I've seen it in a couple of chats online lately and it never seemed common before.)

Oh and he is a little freak, see the above posts.

"knowing a Hollywood insider" - OK, then. That settles that.

I don't think he's any weirder than you, Ustwo - oh, wait ...

:lol:

Bill O'Rights 04-20-2006 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Gatorade Frost
I don't think I could ever eat that knowing what it is, but it does look like something that would be edible if need be.

That, it seems, is key. Knowing what it is, I mean. Think about it. Trim that thing up, slice it, fry it with a little onion...is it really all that much different from liver?
Of course, I can't stand liver, either. However, there are many many who do. So...what about it liver eaters? Would you? Could You? On a Boat? Would you? Could You? with a goat?

Ustwo 04-20-2006 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by highthief
"knowing a Hollywood insider" - OK, then. That settles that.

I don't think he's any weirder than you, Ustwo - oh, wait ...

:lol:

I may be wierder than Cruise but I also get more pussy so it evens out ;)

ClostGoth 04-20-2006 06:12 AM

Heard second-hand that they had the baby yesterday (on my birthday!), but haven't heard how it went. Has anyone else heard anything definitive? I'm curious to see if they think they had a "successful scientology birth". :-)

Weird side-note: I think this forum is affecting my brain. I actually DREAMED about this last night. I was sitting on a grassy hill with Tom Cruise and a dark-haired chick I assume is his wife, Katie. They had the baby (it was a girl) with them, and I was trying to explain to them why keeping her in the plastic bag was a REALLY bad idea. Go figure. Too much to do today to be worrying about celebrities and their oddities any more, though - I'm off to school! Ta-ta! :icare:

Bill O'Rights 04-20-2006 06:16 AM

Ustwo!! Wake up!! You're posting in your sleep again. You were having a dream that you get more pussy than Tom Cruise. :D

itch vaccine 04-20-2006 06:31 AM

Hahaha, he gets more variety perhaps. Not all girls would dig a placenta-eating-silent-birth-demanding man. Some may find it sexy, but I wouldn't know.

Gatorade Frost 04-20-2006 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill O'Rights
That, it seems, is key. Knowing what it is, I mean. Think about it. Trim that thing up, slice it, fry it with a little onion...is it really all that much different from liver?
Of course, I can't stand liver, either. However, there are many many who do. So...what about it liver eaters? Would you? Could You? On a Boat? Would you? Could You? with a goat?

I always thought it looked more like a sting ray, so I guess you'd fry that sucker up like you'd cook sting ray.

Redlemon 04-20-2006 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Gatorade Frost
I always thought it looked more like a sting ray, so I guess you'd fry that sucker up like you'd cook sting ray.

I had a buddy who used to work in a cheap fish house. When they'd run out of scallops, they'd catch a ray and cut it up with a round cookie cutter, and serve it as scallops.

Ustwo 04-20-2006 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill O'Rights
Ustwo!! Wake up!! You're posting in your sleep again. You were having a dream that you get more pussy than Tom Cruise. :D

And I stand by that statement. Note I didn't say I got more sex :thumbsup:

lindalove 05-03-2006 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by raeanna74
It sortof makes me wonder if he's not getting paid to do it in order to influence the few so far flockless sheep out there who admire him. But that's my own little bit of paranoia I guess.

He may not be getting paid but that's exactly what he's doing. He's a walking poster with more coverage than any commercial could ever hope to achieve.

smooth 05-03-2006 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Gatorade Frost
If anyone wants to see a placenta, check it out: http://static.flickr.com/40/131725971_ff95d35746_o.jpg

I don't think I could ever eat that knowing what it is, but it does look like something that would be edible if need be.

In regard to the keeping silent, there's been a lot said between now and the beginning, but I'll throw this in anyway since I don't know if it's been said. In the psychology course I'm taking they've made it very clear that a baby's brain hasn't formed enough to remember anything from birth like pain or the screaming. People who talk about that kind of thing are pretty influenced by Freud, who isn't the best source on psychological information.

I actually didn't have a desire to see a placentia, but I clicked on the link anyway.
then i stared at it for about a full minute
then i read your post
thought, wtf, about your comment of it looking edible
then i clicked on the photo again to see if it did
it doesn't

Cynthetiq 05-03-2006 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by smooth
I actually didn't have a desire to see a placentia, but I clicked on the link anyway.
then i stared at it for about a full minute
then i read your post
thought, wtf, about your comment of it looking edible
then i clicked on the photo again to see if it did
it doesn't

DAMN YOU!!!

Why did I do just like you did????

exactly like you did, line for line.

raeanna74 05-03-2006 07:10 AM

It only looks edible if you enjoy eating liver and heart and the gibblets. I don't - I won't.

Even so, he knows the media takes things out of context, so why did he say that even in jest?? Not very well thought out, eh?

CaliLivChick 05-05-2006 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by itch vaccine
Followers believe it is traumatic for babies to hear their mother scream or groan when giving birth. They think it can cause “psychic” damage, which takes years of therapy to overcome.

The cult’s creator, sci-fi writer L. Ron Hubbard, once said: “Maintain silence in the presence of birth to save both the sanity of the mother and child.”

How many of you had years of therapy to repair your "psychic" damage from birth? Show of hands?

Also, wouldn't maintaining silence while pushing a baby out with no pain killers CAUSE insanity in the mother? (okay, just kidding on that one) =)

StormBerlin 05-05-2006 02:41 PM

I just saw an interview with Tom (from before the birth) and he dispelled the myth that Katie wouldn't be able to make a sound during the birth. The silence is for everyone else out of respect for the mother. Katie will be allowed to make as much noise as she wants and also be able to take any drugs she wants. *shrug*

Lady Sage 05-26-2006 05:02 PM

You guys are great, I thought I was gonna choke to death laughing at all this!
Valid points and awesome humor!
Until Mr. Cruise gives birth he should shaddup already and someone needs to break it to him that he isnt god... *GASP* say it aint so Ethel!
Also it seems Ms. Holmes is suffering major post-partum depression and Mr. Cruise will not allow her antidepressants.... anyone care to venture a wager as to why Ms. Holmes is so depressed?
1) shes with a LUNATIC
2) shes list her identity
3) she hasnt had work in forever (yes party in fact she was prego)
4) every part of her life is dictated for her
5) she cant even talk to her kid for a week!
ok Katie wakie wakie and smell the amaretto!
A girl that damn cute could have a zillion men better! Has he broken her spirit too???
Is there no bounds to the evil that is Tom Cruise???

Nisses 05-29-2006 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Lady Sage
You guys are great, I thought I was gonna choke to death laughing at all this!
Valid points and awesome humor!
Until Mr. Cruise gives birth he should shaddup already and someone needs to break it to him that he isnt god... *GASP* say it aint so Ethel!
Also it seems Ms. Holmes is suffering major post-partum depression and Mr. Cruise will not allow her antidepressants.... anyone care to venture a wager as to why Ms. Holmes is so depressed?
1) shes with a LUNATIC
2) shes list her identity
3) she hasnt had work in forever (yes party in fact she was prego)
4) every part of her life is dictated for her
5) she cant even talk to her kid for a week!
ok Katie wakie wakie and smell the amaretto!
A girl that damn cute could have a zillion men better! Has he broken her spirit too???
Is there no bounds to the evil that is Tom Cruise???

If she's that ill at ease there, why doesn't she just leave? Oh wait, she's hypnotised and brainwashed too I suppose.

I think you might wanna put some perspective on that opinion


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