Scientologist Isaac "chef" Hayes quits ‘South Park
 

the argument of southpark and mocking religion and culture isn't new... but it's starting to bite them in the ass! chef quit! according to a poll on this website, 90% sided with the makers of the show, and 10% sided with chef

Sounds like Chef can dish it but he can't take it. It's BS. If he is persoanlly offende, he mi9ght consider the actual weight of the show versus the weight of Tom Cruise's recent actions. If I were a scientologist, I would care more about a run away star with the attention of America than a cartoon that's know to push all boundries.

I sort of regret the tone that Matt Stone takes at the end of the article. I mean... he's right. It's just a shame to have to end a years-long professional relationship like that. There was a high road to be taken... and he drove right on by it.

Too bad. I expect even if he was okay with things, other scientoologists (sp?) weren't. No doubt he risked losing free towel service at the club.

I love the Chef Character on South Park, and I hope they find a good replacement voice rather than get rid of the character.

I could care less about some scientologist who can't handle a good dose of the truth.

I also don't think the episode of SP about Scientology was bigoted towards anything but Tom Cruise and John Travolta. I fact checked the episode of SP, and nothing about Scientology seems off base at all. I agree with USTWO, Isaac Hayes can't handle truth.

there was an episode about catholics this year that was pretty offensive too
i'd even say it was more offensive than the scientology episode, but i guess that's up for debate.

i hardly watch the show, but have fond memories of the time mormonism was explained. the background music was someone singing "dum du-dum duh dum dum..."

Whats funny is I learned nothing new about scientology in that episode, but I did learn something new about Travolta. I got some inside holywood information that he is indeed in the closet, specificly with his co-pilot. Explained that part of the joke to me after the fact (Cruise and R. Kelly didn't need explanation).

Haha. Good riddance to him. If he can't take a joke, fuck him.

You got some "inside hollywood information" from a satire cartoon show? Please tell me you aren't serious about that sentence.

ratbastid, I have to disagree with you. I am absolutely grateful for the remarks and calling Isaac on his bullshit. The only high road that exists today is to not even get involved in anything. When the only thing you're used to hearing is "We respect his decisions and wish him luck in his future endeavors" those words from Matt Stone make me wanna marry his left nut.

No the information had nothing to do with the show. Friend of my best friend happens to be a very wealthy hollywood type. After speaking with him at a party after I saw the south park scientology episode, Travoltas co-pilot came up (unrelated to the show). That story made the whole 'Travolta in the closet' bit make sense.

Hahahahah. This story is the funniest thing I've heard all week. Fuck Isaac Hayes. What a disgusting hypocrite.

Damn. No more sweet love down by the fire.

I have to say this, Hayes was introduced singing a love song about inter-species fucking, and now he has a problem with the tone of the show.

It was probably a strong arm from the church.

Here's a link to the episode in question.

http://www.scientomogy.info/south-park.htm

I can't quite tell if it is legal or not. It is linked to from wikipedia.org and the following is a quote from southparkstudios.com:
I'll leave it up to the mods to decide to remove this link or not.

Well... whether it was direct influence or his own decision, it was still the church that made him do it, in the end.

And yeah, they've been making fun of everyone for years and years- and then they poke a little fun at scientologists and suddenly they've crossed a line? Hahahaha yeah ok, whatever.

I'm glad they reacted the way they did, and i wouldn't expect less from Matt and Trey. That's a bullshit move on Hayes' part. You can't claim moral superiority suddenly after participating in it gleefully for years.

Hold up, people. A little perspective please? Y'all are missin' the bigger issue here...

Whoa......I'm booking me a ski trip in Hell.

so, this brings up the question, how do you think they'll off Chef? You know it's going to be brutal and politically and morally wrong, and in being so, it will be so right. Thoughts?

maybe another scientology episode is in order

let chef be brainwashed and get taken up in the mothership to meet Xenu or some such bullshit.

It's been known to happen. I may not agree with Ustwo over in Politics, but shoot we're both ingelligent people...we're bound to agree on something.

"Show me a man you can't agree with on anything, and I'll show you a man you don't respect." - Willravel

Yes, it definitely seems Hayes simply didn't like it when it was his own clique under the microscope. If Stone and Parker crossed the line (whatever the hell that means), it would have been long before the episode in question.

This says everything right here:

Fuck him...

I think Snoop Dogg would be a great replacement for a new chef voice... :)

oh... Sooo many thoughts, so little time...

Have a new Scientology episode, and randomly throughout the whole show cut to the chef working the glory hole in the confessional...

or

Keep the chef character in the show as a ball-gagged S&M slave for Hitler and the Devil...

I really did'nt know he was a scientologist.

but now that I do, he won't be missed.

Add him to the huge list of people who can dish it out but can't take it.

i wouldn't be suprised if they simply find another voice, if they kill him they have to use another voice for that episode anyway so they might as well keep him

Chef will probably wind up in the closet with Cruise before this is all over with.

Did you actually watch the show? It was VERY explicit about stating that Scientology is a global scam. I don't think that's a tenet of the Scientologist faith. Even if this was just a joke, the show was definitely MORE critical of Scientology than Cruise, Travolta, or Kelley.

Actually, after watching the episode, I can see why Isaac Hayes was offended. I can't say that he's unbiased. It's obvious that he left because it was attacking something he believed. But it is VERY obvious why he was offended: the show presented Scientology as completely untrue. I don't know if it's done that with any of the other religions. They've made fun of other religions, but I dunno whether they've explicitly called them untrue.

Perhaps because other religions aren't based upon science fiction novels? Read up on the history of the 'religion' and you'll find why it's so easy to redicule.

*grumble*
/tries not to mock others' religions...


/laughs because people actually worship CLAMS....

First off Scientology is a global scam and you would need to be an idiot to fall for it.

Secondly if you saw the Mormon episode, they basically called Joseph Smith a liar and a fraud.

"dum dum dum dum dum"

They had the collage of Cardinals all child molesters, the local priest fucking a woman in the confessional, and the virgin Mary shooting blood out her ass on the popes face (in all seperate episodes).

I think Scientology can suck it on this one and Mr. Hayes can hook himself to an E-meter.

Isaac Hayes lost ALL respect from me on this one. total hypocrisy. But, as always, I'm sure that he could give a rats ass whether I respect him or not.

the thing i thought when i read this thread was that i'm surprised shaft wasn't upset about the episode with david blaine and the blainetology stuff. i thought that was a pretty action packed jab at the kool aid comet riders, scientology, david blaine, and jesus christ, all rolled into one.

i really can't see how you can rationally get too upset at the south park guys for making fun of scientology, after all the stuff they've done with that show. i think shaft is probably just tired of the show in general, and this just punched the clock for him.

"a prostitute is like any other woman, but you don't pay her to stay, you pay her to leave...take it James Taylor..."

This thread reminds me of how much I love South Park.

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Yeah, my lawyer has an attorney friend in Hollywood who had things to say about Cruise.

But I think that's another of Hollywood's worst-kept secrets, even though Cruise sues anyone who says it too publicly.

Scientology IS a global scam. The creator, L. Ron Hubbard, said so himself. Jesus Christ never called Christianity a scam. Muhammed never called Islam a scam. Looking at the whole picture, Scientology is obviously a scam.
Scientology is untrue. I fact checked the episode of SP, and nothing about Scientology seems off base at all. On some level, one could suggest that all organized religion is a global scam, but Scientology is so blatent in it's scamming people that it's impossible to ignore. My theton level is 0.

Yea that one came up too :lol:

I guess when you are a tiny guy who is marketed as a sex object, you need to keep appearnaces up.

Reminds me of that special fark.com post:
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/4918/cruise2ps.jpg

Mormons?

http://www.i4m.com/think/southpark/
http://www.rickross.com/reference/mormon/mormon134.html

To paraphrase:
"I can't show you these tablets, I have to hide them in my hat. Sure, they are in my hat. Really."

"I lost some pages, can you re-read them for me?"

"No. For some flimsy excuse, I can't re-read the tablets. And it isn't because I was making that shit up as we went along."

Well then again, Mormonism was also shown to be the only correct religion. Everyone else went to hell.

If John Travolta or Tom Cruise quit Scientology today, the church would publish stories about them being gay tomorrow. I wonder what shit they have on Isaac Hayes?

Yea but recall what heaven was like :)

I think stone's words at the end should be applauded. The show would be offensive if they didn't make fun of one religion. It's pretty much the not so new way of being PC...leave no religion or race unoffended.

<--lost a ton of respect for isaac on some level.

Gotta disagree with my hubby on this one - I think Stone called it like it is. Hayes is a hypocrite, and it would be uncharacteristic of the South Park crew to step over it.

Oh my God, they killed Chef!!! You bastards!

Shaft Chef! Stoopid MoFo.

"whooo is the man, that can't handle truth like Stone can?.... Chef!"

Or maybe that show and/or other events related to the issue may have caused Isaac Hayes' beliefs to be profoundly affected?

I would think it more likely that his view simply changed over the period of almost 10 years before I called the man out as a hypocrite. This fallout may have been building up for quite a while. Nevertheless, my perspective on many things have changed based on experiences that personally affected me. It does not mean I'm a hypocrite. It means I've learned from the experience and am probably in better position to express myself on the issue.

Something seems fishy about the timing of this exchange between Hayes, Trey and Matt. The Scientology episode was quite some time ago, Hayes had plenty of time to say something if he was pissed about it. Oh, and by the way, the new season of South Park startes Wednesday. I think it's a publicity stunt.

If the whole thing is honest, Hayes is a dipshit. If it's a publicity stunt, those three are brilliant.

You think it's a publicity stunt? Never occurred to me. Interesting....

I doubt it to be honest.

He's helped make fun of of everyone and everything for years but say something about Scientology and he's outta there. I'm sure the powers that be of his religion had some influence in the matter but still that's awfully hipocritical. If anything they just made the problem worse as i'm sure they'll go out of their way now to poke fun at Scientology.

Just to add a more fuel to the fire, now it looks like someone may have been speaking for Mr. Hayes. http://www.foxnews.com/printer_frien...188463,00.html

There's more to the article than I've snipped, but these are the high points. I tried to pull up the interview off the Onion, but I didn't have the patience or time to go wading through the archives once I didn't find it immediately. If the quotes later in the Fox article are accurate, then it's very interesting that he'd be ok with the episode in December/January (depending on when the interview took place) and then not ok with it in March. If someone is speaking for him, I have to wonder if they're working in conjunction with Tom Cruise or someone in his "camp". Regardless, controversy like this really only plays into the hands of Parker and Stone, as seen by their press release last week. If I were them, I'd be tossing around ideas for another Scientologist episode and maybe thinking about distributing closet action figures - not actual people, just closets that don't open.

Hayes didn't quit South Park after all

According to this article at least. But apparently he was recently hospitalised by a stroke, and his church quit him on his behalf.

http://www.foxnews.com/printer_frien...188463,00.html

It's kind of strange though. Why did Stone and Parker react the way he did if they didn't even know for sure that Hayes was quitting? Surely they must have contact with him? Did they jump the gun a bit?

They may have been suckered by the 'offical' statement like everyone else. That or perhaps Hayes had second thoughts and is looking for a way out. Lots of 'maybe's here.

Like I said before, maybe it was a publicity stunt. Why not? If Hayes was actually cool with the episode then maybe he agreed to do this as a publicity stunt. With the season premier this week, it just makes sense. They show got a LOT of free publicity because of this story.

This has to be the most bizarre Publicity Snafu I've ever seen. I can't make any sense out of the chain of statements made here.

It's not that complicated:

Hayes: You guys can suck on my chocolate salty balls!

Trey and Matt: Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out, hypocrite!

Hayes: I never said that, I love Trey and Matt!

Trey and Matt (from the upcoming interview): Ok, cool. And by the way, don't miss the season premier!

I can't wait for this....

http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2006-03-21/

Chef Returns for 'South Park' Premiere

So was this really a publicity stunt?
If not, who'll be doin Chef's voice?
WTF?

The South Park folks aren't the type to need a publicity stunt. If their ratings were lagging, or if they had a movie in the works, or needed drug money, perhaps. At the moment? Nah.

I read an article on Yahoo saying that for the season premere they chopped and screwed Chefs voice from old episodes. WOuldn't seem that far out, I imagine they would have a lot to work with.

Has anyone seen the new episode yet? F*cking beautiful..."we shouldn't be mad at chef for leaving us, we should be mad at that fruity little club for scrambling his brains."

"If a man really wants to make $1 million, the best way would be to start his own religion." - L. Ron Hubbard

So much for it being a publicity stunt. Chef fell from a rope bridge, was incinerated, had a cougar tear his arm off, got shot, had a bear rip him in half, and then had the cougar rip the skin off of his face.

Brilliant.

that was one of the best episode ever!

aye, but after falling from a cliff, being impaled on a tree, having a bear tear him in half and a cougar that ripped his arm off....


he was remade...

into....Darth..Chef

classic episode, but it did make a good point and it saved face for the southpark crew. ...AND they were able to make fun of scientology again :)

Yes, this episode was the first time I've laughed at South Park in a looong time.

Don't forget he shit himself too.

THIS IS WHAT SUPER ADVENTURE CLUB MEMBERS ACTUALLY BELIEVE

Best part of the ep

hahaah, yeah, i caught that, but my gf didn't see the scientology ep, so she didn't know why i was laughing so hard.

As one of the people who believes that all religion is a scam, I have a few things to say. First, the season premiere was brilliant. Second, the "Church" of Scientology does not deserve any respect from anyone, for any reason. It is a dangerous cult whose most benign crime is defrauding members and weaseling hundreds of thousands of dollars out of them. All the extortion in the world doesn't hold a candle to drawing in impressionable people then brainwashing, abusing, and even murdering them. To hurl shit at those responsible for this cult would be degrading to the name of human excrement and suffice only to waste perfectly good fertilizer.

I believe the past tense of "shit" is "shat." It's a very unerappreciated and unused word.

I just saw the episode. I couldn't stop laughing at the "I wanna make love to / you / Children"

I almost choked on some doritos.

I still love south park.

Ah I just read this today, that episode makes so much more sense now! I knew they were making fun of something but I couldn't quite figure it out (didn't see the scientology ep).

Looks like he just couldn't handle a taste of his own medicine...

Making fun of religion isn't new on South Park. They've always done it.

I agree with the people who think that Isaac Hayes is being a little overly sensitive.

It is a little hypocritical that he can stand the show making fun of Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism,and all other religions, big and small, but Scientology is sacred.

NOTHING is sacred on South Park. That's the point. That's why people watch.

I agree! I love saying the word shat. I'm glad to find someone else who feels the same about the underuse of the word.

erm, it was sick alright

but i'm not sure if it was good sick, sick sick, or bad sick.

I think me and my friend (avid sp fans) both agreed on sick sick.

Hayes can kiss my chocolate salty nuts!
I have a very difficult time understanding how people can actually believe in scientology, even after it's founder claimed to have created it specifically to create a cult. Hayes, Cruise, Holmes, Kelley, Travolta........IMO they all have some mental imbalance that keeps them from recognizing reality. IMO, this is the huge hypocrisy of religion in general. Hayes left because HIS religion was being bashed, yet all religions, to some extent, believe their religion is the true one and their religious deity is the true deity.

It's a gradual brainwashing process.