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Old 03-04-2006, 10:23 AM   #41 (permalink)
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I hope that blatant flaming will not be tolerated in the future. But anything short of cuss words has been tolerated in the past. This is not an attitude of respect for fellow board members. This is not what we come to the TFP for. We come to be enlightened. Not ridiculed for our personal opinions.
gg, I've read the thread and agree with you on the respect part, but not the pedophile business. I lost my virginity at 15 to a 19 year and was not forced, manipulated or coerced into the act. At 15, believe it or not, I was very mature and understood what sexual relations were and the various potential fallouts from it. I actually persued the boy and never to this day think my actions were improper, immoral or anything else.

I too have been on many different forums where the flaming is personal and hurtful. That is why this place is so cool. But one thing to remember is that in not wanting to be ridiculed for personal opinions, we have to be careful our opinions do not offend or disrespect others also. I could have taken offense to your claim of pedophilia for my instance, but since it wasn't, it doesn't affect me. Doesn't mean it doesn't affect others though.
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Old 03-05-2006, 10:33 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I hope that blatant flaming will not be tolerated in the future. But anything short of cuss words has been tolerated in the past. This is not an attitude of respect for fellow board members. This is not what we come to the TFP for. We come to be enlightened. Not ridiculed for our personal opinions.
Well, it's not tolerated now. Like I said before, the only reason that the "insensitive asshole" comment remained was because you- the person it was aimed at- didn't report it to be dealt with, but instead decided to quote it and answer to it. The mods can't help with flaming if it's not reported and you take matters into your own hands, instead of letting us do what we do.

Answering back with "You guys are doing better... but still... There's more name-calling" makes it seem like you either find the flame all too appropriate and are brushing it off, or you don't find it all that bad. I'm guessing you disliked the comment, based on what you said above, but your initial reaction didn't really convey that.

So next time, just let us know, and we'll gladly take care of it.
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Old 03-06-2006, 02:10 AM   #43 (permalink)
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I think you all totally missed the point of the original article here.
This was no accident.
It was a suicide.
why else would a grown-up decide to run a car in an enclosed space?
There are few people out there that do not know what happens.
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Old 03-06-2006, 03:41 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Man that's gotta suck

Police Officer - "Ma'am, I got a bad news for you"
Girlfriend - "What?"
PO - "Your boyfriend was found dead"
GF - "OMG!"
PO - "He was found with another dead woman"
GF - "God that's horrible!"
PO - "They were engaging in act of sex ma'am"
GF - "That son of a bitch!"
LOL I can picture it
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Old 03-06-2006, 05:19 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Old 03-06-2006, 06:29 AM   #46 (permalink)
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[QUOTE=genuinegirly][QUOTE=analog]Well, it could have been phrased differently. Here's the thing, though:

Based on absolutely nothing, you called the guy a pedophile and basically said his death was deserved. That's really harsh. Neither article mentioned anything about statutory rape, or that it was anything illegal- you made that leap yourself. In the state where it happened, it was a perfectly legal act between what the state recognizes as two consenting adults. Not to mention that pedophilia defined as an attraction to prepubescent children- which a 17 year old most certainly is not.
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I'm sorry, in my state, he is legally considered a pedophile. He would be on the Megan's Law website with a big fat "Rape and illicit acts with a CHILD under the age of 18". Karma says it was coming to him. As it will to anyone else who does this kind of senseless crap.

It's still a tragedy and I feel for his (and her) family.

I've been bothered by the flippancy of many members on the boards in general lately.
Fewer and fewer people take time to think about their responses and to attempt to come up with something poignant that will drive conversation. It's just a bunch of "hey, you're an imbicile and here's why" crap, rather than, "Hey, that's an interesting perspective. Mine differs. Let's talk it out."
I came to expect the first from other discussion boards, I thought I could expect the second from the TFP.


In my eyes, Little Tippler, you were manipulated by an older man, and your life has been lived out differently because of this. Maybe it's just my skewed perspective, but it's a perspective. I know, Little Tippler, that you have every right to think that I am wrong. I would like to hear why. I would like some real dialogue here. I would like the opportunity to gain an open mind about this one.

But the way the current conversation is going, none of that will happen.
I think perhaps, genuinegirly, that this whole issue has hit some sort of sore spot with you. I didn't mean my comment personally at you, though you were implied. You did jump to conclusions, and made a pretty harsh remark about how that guy deserved to die, and if you want to talk about flippancy, well I believe you have been far more flippant in this thread than me. If you take the time, you will notice that I am not one to make flippant remarks on the TFP and usually think my responses out well and try to accomodate other people. I could not refrain from feeling stung by your comment as I have been in a relationship with a man of the same age as the one in this situation.

Again on the topic of flippancy, to say that you actively know something about my personal life without ever having met me or knowing anything about my life, is very presumptuous of you. I have every right to tell you that in my case, you are absolutely wrong, and I regret nothing. My life has not been negatively affected by that relationship in which I was for 3 years. My parents knew him well and aprooved of him. I knew his parents also. What does age have to do with love anyway?

I am sorry if this reply hits a nerve once more, but you have definitely hit a nerve with me by completely assuming things about myself and others when you have no information on the fact to back you up. To say that I was manipulated by someone who was in a serious and trusting relationship with me for years who you know nothing about is extremely rude.

Maybe you should be the one to think out your answers more thoroughly and if you think that by making the following statement initially in this thread:

"Tragic.

cheating pedophiles get what's coming to them...
What I wonder is if it wasn't also rape. "

is an attempt to come up with something poignant that will drive conversation, you must be seriously misguided.
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Old 03-06-2006, 06:53 AM   #47 (permalink)
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When I met my wife, she was driving a 1987 Olds Cutlass Calais. It was a good car. We never made out in in, since we were both professionals and had apartments. She sold it to a teenager who my wife taught in 1st grade about 10 years before.

BY the way, sexual attraction to teenagers is called hebephilia. It is not pedophilia. There is a difference.
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Old 03-07-2006, 08:03 AM   #48 (permalink)
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I think you all totally missed the point of the original article here.
This was no accident.
It was a suicide.
why else would a grown-up decide to run a car in an enclosed space?
There are few people out there that do not know what happens.
I doubt it was a suicide. My guess is that they either were on their way in or out and got busy, forgetting that they had a running car in the garage. Or he could just be a dumbass.
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Old 03-07-2006, 09:05 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Maybe you should be the one to think out your answers more thoroughly and if you think that by making the following statement initially in this thread:

"Tragic.

cheating pedophiles get what's coming to them...
What I wonder is if it wasn't also rape. "

is an attempt to come up with something poignant that will drive conversation, you must be seriously misguided.
Exactly what I was thinking.
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Old 03-07-2006, 11:14 AM   #50 (permalink)
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This story reminds me of the Darwin Awards, Any one familiar with them?
“Named in honor of Charles Darwin, the father of evolution, the Darwin Awards commemorate those who improve our gene pool by removing themselves from it.”
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Old 03-08-2006, 12:03 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I didn't have anything nice to say ...

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Old 03-08-2006, 12:55 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I doubt it was a suicide. My guess is that they either were on their way in or out and got busy, forgetting that they had a running car in the garage. Or he could just be a dumbass.
Right... something not right with them folks.

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Old 03-08-2006, 01:01 PM   #53 (permalink)
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MOD NOTE : Let's get this thread back on track people - one way to do that is to RESPECT ALL MEMBERS ... and Remember Scarcasm does not carry well on the boards.
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Old 03-08-2006, 02:21 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Old 03-08-2006, 02:24 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Funny thing... I'm not really sure if this thread has any merit to discuss. It seems that about the only thing that can be said about it is something derogetory toward the dead folks. Then... someone gets offended by the derogetory comments. May just be better to put the lock on this one.
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Old 03-08-2006, 02:48 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Funny thing... I'm not really sure if this thread has any merit to discuss. It seems that about the only thing that can be said about it is something derogetory toward the dead folks. Then... someone gets offended by the derogetory comments. May just be better to put the lock on this one.
Funny thing...

I was thinking the exact same thing for many, many posts now. Time to let this one go.

It's a shame it never went anywhere, but even more a shame that people couldn't behave themselves. Oh well.
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