US Vice President shoots man
 

Jesus. Just unbelievable.

If it wasn't so unfunny that some poor sap got hurt by this, I'd laugh, y'know?

Cheney Shoots Donor in Hunting Accident
 

It seems that if Cheney didn't have bad luck, he would have no luck at all.

http://www.cnn.com/

Details are still coming in, so I haven't posted the article at this moment.

From an article I read, it was merely some pellets that sprayed him from some bird shot. He didn't really "shoot" him like most people would imagine when reading the headline.

But I'm sure our media is going to take it and run, run run. :o

This is another sad example of the liberal, communist, anti-gun, left-wing, Castro-loving media trying to make our dear leaders look bad. I'm sure the terrorists are laughing right now because we are even discussing this. Well laugh all you want, because the heroes at FOX are reporting the truth - this guy was an Islamic insurgent.

We need to ask ourselves, why isn't our politicians aiming.

Cheney fires a shotgun, pellets from which hit another man, yet Cheney didn't really shoot him? What an interesting view. What, pray tell, did Cheney really do to him then?

Lock him up! LOL

I shouldn't laugh the poor guy has got to be hurting. Cheney is the joke!

I blame the Secret Service...

It's not the first time - Aaron Burr shot and killed Alexander Hamilton in a duel while Vice President under Thomas Jefferson. Burr served the rest of his time and was never tried or convicted for killing Hamilton.

What he did afterwards is almost too bizarre to recount, including trying to lead a secret army to make Texas a nation.

Maybe as Bush jr. finished Bush sr's work, Cheney is hoping to finishe the work of Aaron Burr. He has a few more years in office but that's no reason to start planing for the Texas war of seccession.

Have you ever fired a shotgun with birdshot in it? :confused:


Have you ever hunted?


Often when you hunt for doves or other fowl you spread out over a tract of land. Occasionally there is the possibility of pellets from another hunter hitting the area of your blind when they come back to earth or are deflected. It's akin to getting shot at long range from a BB gun. I'm just saying it's not like many uneducated, uninformed, or ignorant people would assume, that the guy got shot with a "bullet" that could've killed him. Without further detail, and knowing it was bird hunting, I'm just saying not to assume it isn't something very minor getting blown out of proportion.

If it is proven that he was 5' away from the guy and he still hit him then it's far different than if they were in blinds 100 yards apart and he got hit with pellets.

From an eyewitness:

It seems that:
1) the "victim" was the careless one
2) it was very minor.

Clearly you are wrong. Bush arranged this to draw attention away from the war in Iraq.

it's happened to me.

its not really a big deal, its just little lead pullets falling down on you.

about the worse thing that could happen is you getting one stuck in your eye, and I mean stuck in your eye, not shot in your eye, a bottle of saline and your fine.

Please refrain from placing any assumptions upon me. I simply pointed out that your assertion that Cheney didn't really shoot the man is blatantly false. Cheney indeed shot him, as your 3rd post even states. I never said it was intentional or serious - but thanks for the unnecessary hunting lesson. :rolleyes:

I asked two questions, but made no assumptions of you. :thumbsup: You did completely leave out the balance of my sentence about how "most people would imagine when reading the headline" though. ;)

Sorta the same way you never did answer my original question, eh? :crazy:

Sorta how you skirted mine? :lol: Pot, kettle? ;)


If you actually research the actual instance, you'll see that the guy didn't practice proper safety/ettiquette while hunting, and had a few pellets hit him that didn't even make him disoriented or do more than draw a bit of blood. So I'd say it's not what Cheney did, but what the guy did. And since no REAL harm came from it, I don't see why it's an issue. *shrug*

I could be wrong, but I always thought that after killing Hamilton, Burr actually fled the country.

Actually, I'm a registered member of the Anti-Old-Farts-With-Guns lobby. If you can't tell the difference between quail and your hunting mate, time to turn in the keys to your car. Or something like that. :)

Clavus, it took me a moment. :lol:

what you don't believe that accidents can happen?

I understand from previous discussions that you don't like the idea that guns exist. People have accidents with vehicles, tools and sharp objects all the time? Should those be outlawed too?

Actually... this was all staged to show just what the Administration feels about their donors... Beholden to the money? Not on your life!

/threadjack

I'm with Cyn on this one - accidents happen, though this is conspicuously embarrassing if you are the VP of the US.

Hmm, that's different from what I've always believed. Learn something new every day.

To me, the big issue was that the guy who got shot -- who headed off on his own and didn't keep the other posted on where he was headed -- was 78.

I'm not qualified to say whether or not a 78-year-old should be hunting. I can say that most people _I_ know of that age should _not_ be roaming around in the woods where guns are going off. The most I'll say: the veep might have kept in mind that maybe 'Ol Harry couldn't handle himself like he usta. Further than that, I won't play politics in this case.

i'd feel worse if he shot donner or blitzen. Or Santa himself, just went ahead and blew santa away with birdshot. and liked it.

War? I don't think so. Don't let the door hit you in the patootie on the way out more like.

Apparently, wearing bright orange safety vests while hunting just makes it easier for the other hunters to shoot you.

...Besides, Cheney isn't the first member of this administration to have an unfortunate sporting accident. Bush fell off his Segway ;-).

I thought he fell off his bicycle. :)

Cool thing to tell your grandchildren, 50 Cent style. "I got shot in the face.....by the Vice President!"

I see so for those who do not think this is a big deal and harmless..... when you are 78 can I shoot you, like that and see how harmless and funny you think it is?

I feel sorry for Cheney and the man. I'm sure it was an accident but that is a horrendous thing to happen. Thank God, it wasn't more serious, and the man seems to be doing well.

The sad thing is the Right blow it off as nothing and the Left seem to find humor in it..... Rodney was the only one who didn't play partisanship.

As for Burr and Hamilton it was a duel (which was legal at the time). They had been great friends at one time.

Here ya go to put the debate to end: link: http://www.nps.gov/jeff/LewisClark2/...onBurrDuel.htm

Haha. Watch that you don't accidentally poke a hole in your cheek with that sharp tongue of yours.

This was Cheney's way of letting congress know what would happen to them if they got in the administration's way. Dick the Enforcer will show up at your office door, wearing bright orange, toting a shotgun.

Maybe we read two different articles, but I fail to see where your comment can even remotely apply....

It was an accident, shit happens.

I love the pictures of Cheney that have been up on the major news sites for this story.
Can you imagine this man wielding a shotgun?
http://www.calfx.org/cheney.jpg
:lol: :lol:

Cheney is 65 I think. At what point should people's right to hunt or bear arms be revoked, if that's the concern?

Frankly, I wish Cheney was shot.

Gore Vidal wrote a book on Burr that I really enjoyed.
http://www.ereader.com/product/detail/16243

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A hero of the American Revolution, Aaron Burr (1756-1836) served as vice president under Thomas Jefferson, took the life of Alexander Hamilton in a duel in 1804, and was later tried for treason when Jefferson accused him of plotting to make an empire of his own in the western territories.

Told partly by Aaron Burr at the end of his long life and partly by a young journalist in whom Burr confides, this brilliantly imagined memoir, based on fact, is an enormously engaging work of fiction that treats the political intrigues of the new United States as if they were today's headlines.
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I have no idea how accurate it is.