Nancy

http://www.information.dk/InfWebsite...index.php&p=55

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I think my mask of sanity is about to slip.

Nirvana

What just really makes me angry about the middle east is the high horse that many of these arab countries sit on. countries like Lebanon and Jordan support terrorism against israel due to "land", meanwhile Jordan controls a good chunk of what should be Palestinian territory. Then lebanon, Who "loves" (rolls eyes) the palestinians and wants what is best for them creates some very interesting laws in regards to their rights. this article was written be a Labanese-American about the situation.
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24170

I will continue support for Israel because i beleive while yes at times it does have dirty hands, the arabs have shown nothing but two sided politics, deceit, hate, bigotry, you name it. these assholes sit behind the "we are doing it for the Palestinians" facade when it is clear that is not their intention at all.

Note: i am not speaking about every Lebanese or jornadian or whatever, but the leaders and civilians who do make these complaints while these hypocritical actions take place. While i cant be certain, i will assume that a good number of these two populations do want peace.

highthief

So, now that the Afghan who became a Christian has escaped beheading or stoning or whatever for his beliefs and appears to be safely ensconced in Italy, how long before someone in a Muslim country burns down an embassy or kills someone because of it?

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Charlatan

How long before many more start converting to Christianity so they can get a sweet trip out of Kabul to Italy?

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highthief

I think as long as the odds of people getting a free trip to the civilized world are countered by the threat of death by some gruesome, medieval means, converts will likely be few.

But it raises an interesting point - several people in the western world, notably women like the young lady who used to be on CITY TV and another lady who I heard speak the other day on Al Jazeera - who were born Muslim are giving up on Islam, and either becoming Christian or else agnostic or atheist.

I wonder if we may see a turning of the tide, as it were - historically Islam has had a lot of converts form other religions. Maybe that is starting to shift, at least in the West?

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Nirvana

I think the woman that highthief is speaking about is Dr. Sultan. i saw that interview with her on tv. that was very interesting. she was being called a heretic by some cleric after she said out loud the points that many share. i didn't find it all too surpising that the best that the the cleric could say to counter what she said was "you are a heretic. i have no point to argue with you because you have blasphemed against islam, the prophet and the koran."

highthief

Yes, I believe that was her name. A very well spoken person, very eloquent in the translation. The cleric came across as a complete buffoon.

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Nirvana

i really enjoyed that broadcast. it just solidified my thinking that in the middle east, any expression of personal ideology and thinking and even reform gets you branded as a "heretic" and not worthy of a debate. shocker!! (rolls eyes)