Sex With Horse = Death
 

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...8_farm16m.html




Pasado's Safe Haven, which is an animal rehabilitation sanctuary that also works on animal rights bills is an amazing organization and i have volunteered there for the past several summers.

On their website, they speak about the above story noting:

http://www.pasadosafehaven.org/LEGIS...iality_Law.htm

I was horrified to learn that it is not against the law to rape an animal in Washington state nor in thse 25 other U.S. states:
Pasado's Safe Haven is currently working on passing Senate Bill 6417 will make it a ranked Class V "C" Felony for those convicted of zoophilia, and i fully support this bill.

This 'farm' is about an hour from where i live... ugh. I consider myself an open minded person sexually... however, the raping of animals is something i find horriffic.


sweetpea

Hey, whatever two consenting adults want to do in the privacy of their own barn...

I know that this is serious, but I still can't help giggling at it just a little. Seriously, anyone who didn't see this coming deserves to be removed from the gene pool.

Obviously, given that he was the, um, receiver, makes it a bit different since the horse isn't being harmed. A chicken, goat or pig makes a big difference in the level of humor that I find in this. Maybe I'm to jaded and callous, but I guess that the 15 year old boy in me is still alive and well.

I wouldn't be able to be reached for comment either!

:lol: :lol:

sweetpea

at the risk of being obvious...

An animal is not a consenting adult.

It took me a second to switch gears from that article to this response and read it as practicing pedo- but not necrophilia.

My gut reaction to this is that it's a horrible travesty against nature, but I know others who would say homosexuality is the same thing, and I don't think that is. I want to be open-minded enough to not be outright disgusted as a reaction, but I can only bring myself to look at this as a mental affliction (like necro- or pedophila).

There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say to himself, "No, I won't make sweet love to a horse." Aparenlty, that point never came for the above mentioned.

I'm from California, and we DO have laws against beastiality. I do not understand why these states don't have laws against animal rape. This is disgusting and shocking, and I don't say that very often.

That is quite strange human behavior and if the animals were hurt or distressed, I would be even more concerned.

I see NJ on the list with no prohibitions. 40yrs ago when I was 16 and working my first ever summer job between high school sessions, one of the full time guys working at this place and a strange place it was ...good old Moe... every Monday he used to tell us about driving over to some farms in South Jersey to hit on sheep. According to him, the sheep seemed to like it and used to scuffle among themselves for the #1 place in line. Of course I never actually saw this but it was quite an awakening for a young kid still in high school.

A local news story from around here in the suburban Philadelphia area, just within the last couple years, involved a guy who was caught having sex with horses.

Sex sure seems to be an extremely strong driving force, even strange sex.

Man oh man - taking your bud to the hospital because he just got his ass cored out by a horse? That must be one hell of a ride, no pun intended.

I don't see any parallel between homosexuality or polygamy - where two consenting human adults are involved, and fucking a horse. How could you look the cop in the eye and say "yeah, i fuck horses. ain't against the law. sure is fun."

icky icky foo.

The difference between homosexuality, which some people find disgusting and others don't, and bestiality, which some people find disgusting and others don't, is that homosexuality involves two consenting adults and bestaility doesn't...a horse is unable to give consent.

:lol: That's very true!

exactly! thanks for making that point so eloquently! :)

sweetpea

reminds me of the Edward Albee play The Goat or Who is Sylvia?

very odd, but sometimes that was life is, very odd.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...goatposter.jpg

Am I the only one that can't quite figure out how the horse was forced to enter the man? Who would think a law was needed to prevent something like that? :(

When a dog humps my leg, is he raping me?

Based on the size and weight of a horse, you can't force a horse to have sex with you, it MUST consent.

Sure its disgusting, but I think calling it rape is a bit silly.

There are women who's dogs are trained to mount them, obviously the dog there consents, should that really be illegal?

What I'm getting at is that if you want to make things that are unnatural 'illegal' you must define what is unnatural. I see very little difference between this and the homosexual argument. You have someone deciding what you can and can't do sexually based on what they think is wrong. You can go with the consent angle, but again, is it ok if the animal 'initiates' it, such as a dog humping your leg?

If you're going to make a claim like this then you have to make the semantic argument about the word 'consent'. Does a horse have the cognative ability to approve of any actions? Pardon the following as it is graphic, but necessary. If a man is raped, it is entirely possible that he will gain an erection, but at the same time will have not consented. Some women acheive sexual climax while being raped, but that does not mean that there was consention. Horses are strong and large, but there is no way you can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that the animal consented just because the depraved act happened. Do we know the specific circumstances of the occourances? No. Do we know if the horse was drugged or bound in any way? No.

I need to go read the bible or something. This is too gross.

While NJ doesn't have bestiality laws, they have animal cruelty laws and have arrested and charged people with violating animals.
To that particular story, all I can say is 'ew! ew!' and 'YEOUCH'! What a stupid way to die.....

Although this is a fairly creepy situation as a whole, I would like to throw my two cents in...

In this case in particular, I suppose that the horse was, in fact, consenting. Granted, I don't agree with it in either case, but the horse wasn't damaged. I don't even know if it would be possible to force a horse to force itself on you.

Wow, I didn't really think that I would ever write anything like that last sentance...

Doctor, it hurts when I do THIS.

(sticks giant horse cock in ass)

Hmmm...maybe you shouldn't do that.

ummm...if I find an incredibly gorgeous woman, who is also mentally challenged and has limited capacity to make her own decisions and says "yes" to any question I ask her...am I free to ask her "can I have sex you?" and pending the "yes" hop on break it down? I would compare that level of consent to the type of consent that a horse can provide in this circumstance.

how about child molestation? a child can give consent, but does it mean anything in this sense?

and me, i'd feel pretty bad about having sex with a mentally challenged girl, who technically consented. i think i might even feel like i'd raped her.

I really just can't see equating horsefucking, in any sense, with fucking a person of the same sex, or multiple people at once...

Muahahahahahaha! :lol: That's awful. And hilarious! :lol:

Something else occurred to me - not only did this guy not know to say no to making sweet love to a horse, he had a friend that he apparently discussed it with. And then the friend said, "you know what, that IS a good idea. Let me help out." Not to belittle this situation too much, but does that make the other guy the assistant horse raper?

I'm sorry, but I still can't help laughing at this, even though I heard this story 3 months ago. It's definitely a Darwin Award winner.

The guy would have been available for comment...but he was feeling a little hoarse...

sorry.

Groan...... :)

I was just listening to a Dave Attell bit on the radio this morning where he said "The horse is a beautiful beast, and you know that you always have a ride home afterwards."

yes indeed, thank you for clarifying so well :)

The Point is... can an animal consent? i think... No.

Also... i would like to point out:

that this Particular case was a man being penetrated by the horse... HOWEVER... a fair amount of the cases are people actually being the ones to penetrate... we're talking forcible rape of cats, dogs, chickens, ponies, horses... the list goes on etc.

sweetpea

on the topic of no laws against thing,

i wonder if this is b/c that sex with animals fell under the sodomy laws that have been over turned the last 20 years, and may state governments never got around to passing laws that prohibited this.

Clavus--this is (snicker snicker) serious---glad you folks have
not seen the video---I know you would not believe it then..

what a dumb ass.....

Can it be safe to say a dog who humps your leg is giving 'consent'?

I don't know about men who get hard ons or women who have orgasms while being raped. I can tell you I wouldn't have one, and based on what its like to get women to orgasm I find that very far fetched as well. I on the other hand have worked around horses quite a bit, I used to be a championship rider back in my youth, and I'll tell you if a horse doesn't want to walk 2 feet, you are not going to force it. Likewise you are not going to force it in any way to fuck you unless it so desires at some level. Its sick, but no more sick than what some consenting adults do.


The difference between this and your examples are the fact that yours involve humans. Animals are under different laws. If you want to kill your pets you can, if done in a 'humane' way. Live stock is slaughtered and eaten and we wear their skin. As long as the animal wasn't hurt, what harm was done to it? Does it feel violated and unclean in the animal kingdom? Does it no longer enjoy sex with other horses due to the trauma? Animals are not retarded people, nor do we treat them as such in any case but apparently this.

This is an interesting subject to play devils advocate on as it shows even the most tolerant of people become intolerant once they find their 'ick' factor.

A brief survey of survivor stories would indicate to you that both those occurances are indeed possible (often due to chemical coercion), although not entirely common.

Martin: even though that is entirely possible, it does nothing to change ustwo's point.

I can't understand how people go on this "consent"-diatribe where animals are concerned...

They're animals, not humans, they have a will of their own, and their definition of 'sick' is... They DON'T have one, they're animals!

nisses...i don't all that much care what ustwo thinks about bestiality. but i thought it right to set the record straight about the nature of rape between humans...to my mind a more serious issue.

I'll tell you anyways in case ya miss it, think its pretty disgusting and in this case down right bizarre but I find the arguments against it presented here very weak.

Oh man, I watched it and laughed my ass off. Grosses me out? Hell yeah, but the sheer stupidity of letting a horse fuck you up the ass is just too much. (Maybe I was in shock, I dunno...)

You know this from personal experience or...?

I once tried to DL a music video off of Kazaa, (yeah I know...) and instead I got what looked like a man fucking a chicken.
Jerking off while watching it was extremely difficult, but hell, I had already had it downloaded, and I figured... ehh..whatever.

I Keeed, I keeeeeed! (about the second part)

Do you shave with that wit?

Ok, couple of quickies:

1. I'm going to set up a "humane pet killin" station in my backyard. I'm going to the humane society, get dogs and cats that are slated to be euthanized, take them home, and humanely kill the everliving fuck out of them. I'm going to sit back and see how long I get away with it before my ass is in serious trouble. I'm pretty sure I'll get popped on some animal cruelty laws, regardless of whether or not I can prove that the animals feel no pain, even if they were going to be dead in a day or two regardless.

2. As for the lifestock killing vs. livestock fuckin part, I'm going to go with we have to eat, or else we die. We've evolved to eat meat, and some would claim that we should and could avoid eating animal flesh to feed ourselves. Regardless, eating stuff is pretty necessary for life, period. Fucking horses, or being fucked in the ass by a horse, I believe, may constitute a more difficult argument to convince an unbiased individual of its necessity.

"I was horny, your honor, and the horse was there."

"Why didn't you jack off?"

"Well, I mean, I was horny, and it was a horse, and I wanted to take that popeye powered pud straight up the gizzard. duh!!"

I mean, I guess different strokes for different folks, but I'm putting horsefucking on the strict list of shit that I'm pretty ok with being illegal. I'm going to have a harder time making homosexual acts or (gasp!!!) group sex illegal. You know, some people do seem to think that fucking is strictly supposed to be between one man and one woman, so if there was anyone on this board who was into the swinger scene and group sex, and if someone showed up at the next orgy with their partner Domino Dusts the Corncrop, I suppose that person would be ok, morally and ethically, with tagteaming some hot little tramp, while the guy next to him took the 4 in. diameter shaft of a purebred right in the steamer?

As for consent, do we prosecute animals for murder when they trample or maul the shit out of people? Do we convict mosquitos of "blood theft"? Neightbor's dog shits a squiggly pyramid in your yard...goes to jail for public defecation? I mean, they all consented to what I would assume would be crimes if a person did them?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that people should be tried for the crime of horse raping, but I think horse fucking would be a pretty good start. Whatever it takes to make them stop...short of ripping a hole in their ass that kills them.

Provided the animal wasn't hurt or distressed by the action why should it be illegal? Ok its not my thing but if you have an animal that is willing to perform an action is it not consent? A lot of animals have ways of saying they don't consent... my dogs for example, they don't like their food so they scatter it all over the place and leave an empty bowl at the door... seems like a pretty good hint about something, to treat animals as totally dumb is silly, ok my dogs can't talk but they are far from dumb.