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Deltona Couple · 04-22-2009, 01:52 PM

I dont get it?...nothing to explain or support the graph. what do the graphs represent? a survey of popularity? a graph of ticket sales in theatres?

BurntToast · 04-22-2009, 02:00 PM

I think it's supposed to represent how good the movies were. If so I think it's somewhat accurate.

Plan9 · 04-22-2009, 02:06 PM

And somehow I agree with all of them.

Ugh, fuck Jurassic Park II & III. Nightmares of shit.

uncle phil · 04-22-2009, 02:23 PM

my toast is burning...

dippin · 04-22-2009, 02:43 PM

I disagree with Mad Max and Terminator (first were best) and Lord of the Rings (none were really that good)

Cynosure · 04-22-2009, 02:54 PM

Superman II was better than the first one, i.e. Superman - The Movie?

I thought the consensus was, the first was far better than the 2nd.

Hmm. Would that be the version of Superman II released in theaters, back in the early '80s, or would that be the (reportedly far superior) "Richard Donner Cut", released on DVD in the mid 2000s?

Glory's Sun · 04-22-2009, 02:57 PM

pretty accurate but I would rate star wars 1-3 at a 0. LOTR 1-3 at a 0 and any Star Trek at a -100.

Reese · 04-22-2009, 03:57 PM

Seems pretty accurate to me. Remember the graph is relative as proven by Godfather 3 being significantly lower than the other GF movies even though it still wasn't a bad movie. So, even if you didn't like any of the Star Wars or LOTR movies the relative quality is still accurate

I'd disagree with Jaws though. There's no way Jaws 3 was better than the 2nd.

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Originally Posted by Cynosure

Superman II was better than the first one, i.e. Superman - The Movie?

I thought the consensus was, the first was far better than the 2nd.

Hmm. Would that be the version of Superman II released in theaters, back in the early '80s, or would that be the (reportedly far superior) "Richard Donner Cut", released on DVD in the mid 2000s?

Superman 1 & 2 are tough calls. I recently watched Superman 1 and 2(Donner cut) on Bluray and they were both really good.

Charlatan · 04-22-2009, 04:53 PM

Is that Rambo 1 (ie First Blood 2) or is that First Blood. If it's First Blood, then First Blood 2: Rambo should be higher. Otherwise, I agree with the rating.

I would lower the ratings on the Back to the Future sequels. Not nearly as good as the first one.

The Terminator was a better film that this gives it credit for...

Also... I really hope these levels are only used to compare against the other films in the Trilogy and are not giving some sort of cross comparison. If the latter is true then suggesting that The Godfather II is equal to Terminator II and only marginally better than Superman II is just insane.

FuglyStick · 04-22-2009, 05:09 PM

"Mad Max" was better than "Thunderdome"

Deltona Couple · 04-23-2009, 07:22 AM

What I disagree with is that this graph can only be accurate if every person that ever watched the movies were surveyed. I could go to different places around the US and get different opinions on all these movies. So really the graph is only a representation of how popular or liked the movies were to the specifi group of people that were surveyed. This is emphasized by the responses of the TFP members here.

m0rpheus · 04-23-2009, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Cynosure

Superman II was better than the first one, i.e. Superman - The Movie?

I thought the consensus was, the first was far better than the 2nd.

Hmm. Would that be the version of Superman II released in theaters, back in the early '80s, or would that be the (reportedly far superior) "Richard Donner Cut", released on DVD in the mid 2000s?

Doesn't matter which version. Superman II has Zod, one of the best comic movie villains ever. "Kneel before Zod." That said they are both awesome.

shakran · 04-23-2009, 09:07 AM

Lord of the Rings scored lower than Rambo?

Right.

Charlatan · 04-23-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by shakran

Lord of the Rings scored lower than Rambo?

Right.

That's what I am saying too... the graphs make sense if they are an internal comparison between the films in the trilogy only. As soon as you start looking at the ratings between sets of trilogies you end up with head slappers like the one you reference.

CinnamonGirl · 04-23-2009, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlatan

That's what I am saying too... the graphs make sense if they are an internal comparison between the films in the trilogy only.

See, that's how I was looking at it. Pretty accurate that way, in my opinion, except I'd maybe put The Two Towers slightly below the other two.

Plan9 · 04-23-2009, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by shakran

Lord of the Rings scored lower than Rambo?

Right.

PFFT! *tosses you in with the ring*

shakran · 04-23-2009, 07:09 PM

lol.

"The precious is mine!"

Plan9 · 04-23-2009, 07:32 PM

Rambo: "Nothing is over!"

blahblah454 · 04-23-2009, 07:56 PM

Seems accurate to me.

biznatch · 04-24-2009, 06:23 PM

Seems to me like you guys are thinking about this too hard. Agree with most of this.

Charlatan · 04-24-2009, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by biznatch

Seems to me like you guys are thinking about this too hard.

This is the Internet. Thinking about it too hard is the definition of what we all do on here.

Plan9 · 04-25-2009, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlatan

This is the Internet. Thinking about it too hard is the definition of what we all do on here.

Thinking too hard or hardly thinking? (rimshot)

Or, in my case, thinking with a hard-on?

Zeraph · 04-25-2009, 08:26 AM

Generally agree except I thought the 2nd and 3rd matrix did better than that (still not as good as the first, but no where near that low). And which Batman are they talking about? And where is star wars 4, 5, and 6?

Shaindra · 04-25-2009, 08:30 AM

Looks about right to me. And Godfather 3? Was I the only one who cheered when Sophia Coppola died?

ObieX · 04-25-2009, 08:44 AM

I didn't think the 3rd X-Men movie was THAT bad compared to the others.

BurntToast · 04-26-2009, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeraph

Generally agree except I thought the 2nd and 3rd matrix did better than that (still not as good as the first, but no where near that low). And which Batman are they talking about? And where is star wars 4, 5, and 6?

I took the Star Wars graph as meaning the original trilogy.

Esoteric · 04-26-2009, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BurntToast

I took the Star Wars graph as meaning the original trilogy.

Same, assuming 2 is Empire Strikes Back I definitely agree.

Who am I · 04-26-2009, 04:19 PM

Seems like most of them either go down or stay the same. It would be interesting to find one that actually increases throughout all three movies. I disagree on the last Spiderman one though, it was actually almost as good as the first or second.

Plan9 · 04-26-2009, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by First Blood, 1982

Trautman: You did everything to make this private war happen. You've done enough damage. This mission is over, Rambo. Do you understand me? This mission is over! Look at them out there! Look at them! If you won't end this now, they will kill you. Is that what you want? It's over, Johnny. It's over!

Rambo: Nothing is over! Nothing! You just don't turn it off! It wasn't my war! You asked me, I didn't ask you! And I did what I had to do to win! But somebody wouldn't let us win! And I come back to the world and I see all those maggots at the airport, protesting me, spitting. Calling me baby killer and all kinds of vile crap! Who are they to protest me? Who are they? Unless they've been me and been there and know what the hell they're yelling about!

Trautman: It was a bad time for everyone, Rambo. It's all in the past now.

Rambo: FOR YOU! For me civilian life is nothing! In the field we had a code of honor, you watch my back, I watch yours. Back here there's nothing!

Trautman: You're the last of an elite group, don't end it like this.

Rambo: Back there I could fly a gunship, I could drive a tank, I was in charge of million dollar equipment, back here I can't even hold a job PARKING CARS!

Mmm, best movie on that list. Terminator 2 was a close second.

biznatch · 04-26-2009, 06:33 PM

I thought Spidey 3 was an absolute piece of trash. They tried to cram so much in one movie, and Topher Grace is Venom? WTF.
Also, X-Men 3 was terrible. Cyclops dies, Magneto loses his powers, but maybe not? Yeah, that's a "Let's cover our asses in case we need him back for X-men 4" thing.
They made the Juggernaut a little bitch, too. The guy's supposed to be much bigger, IMO.

04-21-2009, 11:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
Crack Misanthropic Location: Ohio! yay!	The Trilogy meter __________________ Crack, you and I are long overdue for a vicious bout of mansex. ~Halx

04-22-2009, 01:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
Deltona Couple Addict Location: Spring, Texas	I dont get it?...nothing to explain or support the graph. what do the graphs represent? a survey of popularity? a graph of ticket sales in theatres? __________________ "It is not that I have failed, but that I have found 10,000 ways that it DOESN'T work!" --Thomas Edison

04-22-2009, 02:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
BurntToast Here, yet not all there. Location: Franklinville, NJ	I think it's supposed to represent how good the movies were. If so I think it's somewhat accurate. __________________ The taint. Conveniently located between the snack bar and the dumpster.

04-22-2009, 02:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	And somehow I agree with all of them. Ugh, fuck Jurassic Park II & III. Nightmares of shit. __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake."

04-22-2009, 02:23 PM	#5 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	my toast is burning... __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

04-22-2009, 02:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
dippin Crazy, indeed Location: the ether	I disagree with Mad Max and Terminator (first were best) and Lord of the Rings (none were really that good)

04-22-2009, 02:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
Cynosure Psycho Location: the center of the multiverse	Superman II was better than the first one, i.e. Superman - The Movie? I thought the consensus was, the first was far better than the 2nd. Hmm. Would that be the version of Superman II released in theaters, back in the early '80s, or would that be the (reportedly far superior) "Richard Donner Cut", released on DVD in the mid 2000s?

04-22-2009, 02:57 PM	#8 (permalink)
Glory's Sun Registered User	pretty accurate but I would rate star wars 1-3 at a 0. LOTR 1-3 at a 0 and any Star Trek at a -100.

04-22-2009, 04:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	Is that Rambo 1 (ie First Blood 2) or is that First Blood. If it's First Blood, then First Blood 2: Rambo should be higher. Otherwise, I agree with the rating. I would lower the ratings on the Back to the Future sequels. Not nearly as good as the first one. The Terminator was a better film that this gives it credit for... Also... I really hope these levels are only used to compare against the other films in the Trilogy and are not giving some sort of cross comparison. If the latter is true then suggesting that The Godfather II is equal to Terminator II and only marginally better than Superman II is just insane. __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

04-22-2009, 05:09 PM	#11 (permalink)
FuglyStick WHEEEE! Whee! Whee! WHEEEE! Location: Southern Illinois	"Mad Max" was better than "Thunderdome" __________________ AZIZ! LIGHT!

04-23-2009, 07:22 AM	#12 (permalink)
Deltona Couple Addict Location: Spring, Texas	What I disagree with is that this graph can only be accurate if every person that ever watched the movies were surveyed. I could go to different places around the US and get different opinions on all these movies. So really the graph is only a representation of how popular or liked the movies were to the specifi group of people that were surveyed. This is emphasized by the responses of the TFP members here. __________________ "It is not that I have failed, but that I have found 10,000 ways that it DOESN'T work!" --Thomas Edison

04-23-2009, 09:07 AM	#14 (permalink)
shakran Tone.	Lord of the Rings scored lower than Rambo? Right.

04-23-2009, 07:09 PM	#18 (permalink)
shakran Tone.	lol. "The precious is mine!"

04-23-2009, 07:32 PM	#19 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	Rambo: "Nothing is over!" __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake."

04-23-2009, 07:56 PM	#20 (permalink)
blahblah454 Let's put a smile on that face Location: On the road...	Seems accurate to me.

04-24-2009, 06:23 PM	#21 (permalink)
biznatch Junkie Location: France	Seems to me like you guys are thinking about this too hard. Agree with most of this. __________________ Check it out: The Open Source/Freeware/Gratis Software Thread

04-25-2009, 08:26 AM	#24 (permalink)
Zeraph Banned Location: The Cosmos	Generally agree except I thought the 2nd and 3rd matrix did better than that (still not as good as the first, but no where near that low). And which Batman are they talking about? And where is star wars 4, 5, and 6?

04-25-2009, 08:30 AM	#25 (permalink)
Shaindra Psycho Location: Massachusetts	Looks about right to me. And Godfather 3? Was I the only one who cheered when Sophia Coppola died? __________________ "Never regret something that once made you smile."

04-25-2009, 08:44 AM	#26 (permalink)
ObieX Pickles Location: Shirt and Pants (NJ)	I didn't think the 3rd X-Men movie was THAT bad compared to the others. __________________ We Must Dissent.

04-26-2009, 04:19 PM	#29 (permalink)
Who am I Upright	Seems like most of them either go down or stay the same. It would be interesting to find one that actually increases throughout all three movies. I disagree on the last Spiderman one though, it was actually almost as good as the first or second.

04-26-2009, 06:33 PM	#31 (permalink)
biznatch Junkie Location: France	I thought Spidey 3 was an absolute piece of trash. They tried to cram so much in one movie, and Topher Grace is Venom? WTF. Also, X-Men 3 was terrible. Cyclops dies, Magneto loses his powers, but maybe not? Yeah, that's a "Let's cover our asses in case we need him back for X-men 4" thing. They made the Juggernaut a little bitch, too. The guy's supposed to be much bigger, IMO. __________________ Check it out: The Open Source/Freeware/Gratis Software Thread