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3leggedfrog · 02-28-2004, 10:01 PM

Disclaimer: I am not an expert on the topic of religion. This is just an amature’s view on what I see as a big problem with each of these religions. I am not trying to flame any religion nor am I trying to say what religion is better. I am also not the devil. I am ignorant fool who likes to rant. sorry. With that said, I believe no one should read this thread!

Dogma what a powerful thing this is. Don’t think or question about this aspect of our religion just believe and have faith. This is a big problem with Christian and Islam faiths. Dogma is not all bad. Don’t kill that’s a good one. Some of the questions we ask have no answer. What happens after death, who made the world and why…etc. Also another problem is did God or his messengers tell our religious leaders these tenets or was this political motivated. For an example the question in the catholic religion if you don’t believe in Jesus you are going to hell. Did Jesus, God or an angle really say this or was this political motivated by man to spread the religion (sorry Christianity for picking on you I could find another example from the other religions but this is the best example for most people who read this can relate to).

A problem that plagues Christianity is intolerance. If you don’t believe in Jesus you’re going to hell. Did a god who made the world and the universe really say that if I don’t believe in you I am going to hell. To me this smacks of human influence. Out of all the people in the world he, GOD, only told a very few people In only one place at one time who at the time did not have access to everyone else? the human influnce could be a priest who is a little overzealious wants the word to go out to all the people about his religion is the best might want to add this to his religion pretending that god said it. Humans are not above lying if they thought it was for a good cause. i am not saying that they did nor not. i am only saying that this might a possible explaination. another is hundreds of years of being the only teachers of reading and writing for the people who are your followers with a book that was written in a language that is common only to prist. now add a politicaly powerful prist who thinks God should have said this....

Another problem is forgiveness. Christianity are told to forgive everyone. For an example forgive thy neighbor and forgive him his trespasses. what happens if this person is not Catholic? this person is already going to hell why should we forgive them? another example is if the time comes when it is too dangerous to have a criminal around say a rapist murder who if given a chance will commit his crimes again they quote an Old Testament verse eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. In modern times this means kill the bastard but humanely. Do you really forgive him if you kill him?

Next religion is Islam. Sorry Muslims but from my point of view your religion leads to a predisposition towards an oppressiveness enviroment (no I am not just talking about the Middle East). Well I like your ideas on all religions are the same. We all worship the same God. The pillars of wisdom are a great idea. Now the bad part, the Qur’an. The Holy book says a lot about what a person should do and not do. Not that’s all that bad but it does lead a person who is used to someone tell him what to do all the time to follow some strange politcal and religious leaders. the Qur'an is extramly specific on certian things. Dress this way. Do this and don’t do that specifically. This person is responsible for this in the family. For an example the father is responsible for the children after they are born. The women unlike American culture are not responsible for the kids feminist cheer here. the Qur’an spells out how a person should live all the time. What about the alternatives, other ways to live. Now the Shiites (one of the two Islam faiths) have the holy war jihad. Now don’t get me wrong the Shiites are not all bad but believing in dieing for your god and being straight to heaven is scary to me. Also scary if your wrong. Me I like the other faith that doesn’t believe in Jihad. But still the religion is too structured. It limits individual thinking. Is this good or bad? Well in my culture this is bad. I like free thinkers. They make me laugh. Christianity used to be like this until it fragmented. Now there is so many types of Christianity that this helps in the check and balance. If you don’t like it find a new Christianity religion.

Judaism nice religion but it is mixed up with a racial identity. Should I be more proud of my religion or my people? Who is better a full Jew or someone who is just new to the faith?

Wiccians’s deal with superstition to much for me to really like their religion although I do like their love of mother earth.

sorry about the sterotypes and please do not ban me!!!

To me religion should coexist with my life not dominate my life. But that’s just me.

The reson I am posting my thought today is because i was told today that I was going to hell. sigh... I wonder which one?

02-28-2004, 10:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
3leggedfrog Psycho Location: Hiding from the penguins they come to take my sanity away!	Opinion on the problems of the current western religions. Disclaimer: I am not an expert on the topic of religion. This is just an amature’s view on what I see as a big problem with each of these religions. I am not trying to flame any religion nor am I trying to say what religion is better. I am also not the devil. I am ignorant fool who likes to rant. sorry. With that said, I believe no one should read this thread! Dogma what a powerful thing this is. Don’t think or question about this aspect of our religion just believe and have faith. This is a big problem with Christian and Islam faiths. Dogma is not all bad. Don’t kill that’s a good one. Some of the questions we ask have no answer. What happens after death, who made the world and why…etc. Also another problem is did God or his messengers tell our religious leaders these tenets or was this political motivated. For an example the question in the catholic religion if you don’t believe in Jesus you are going to hell. Did Jesus, God or an angle really say this or was this political motivated by man to spread the religion (sorry Christianity for picking on you I could find another example from the other religions but this is the best example for most people who read this can relate to). A problem that plagues Christianity is intolerance. If you don’t believe in Jesus you’re going to hell. Did a god who made the world and the universe really say that if I don’t believe in you I am going to hell. To me this smacks of human influence. Out of all the people in the world he, GOD, only told a very few people In only one place at one time who at the time did not have access to everyone else? the human influnce could be a priest who is a little overzealious wants the word to go out to all the people about his religion is the best might want to add this to his religion pretending that god said it. Humans are not above lying if they thought it was for a good cause. i am not saying that they did nor not. i am only saying that this might a possible explaination. another is hundreds of years of being the only teachers of reading and writing for the people who are your followers with a book that was written in a language that is common only to prist. now add a politicaly powerful prist who thinks God should have said this.... Another problem is forgiveness. Christianity are told to forgive everyone. For an example forgive thy neighbor and forgive him his trespasses. what happens if this person is not Catholic? this person is already going to hell why should we forgive them? another example is if the time comes when it is too dangerous to have a criminal around say a rapist murder who if given a chance will commit his crimes again they quote an Old Testament verse eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. In modern times this means kill the bastard but humanely. Do you really forgive him if you kill him? Next religion is Islam. Sorry Muslims but from my point of view your religion leads to a predisposition towards an oppressiveness enviroment (no I am not just talking about the Middle East). Well I like your ideas on all religions are the same. We all worship the same God. The pillars of wisdom are a great idea. Now the bad part, the Qur’an. The Holy book says a lot about what a person should do and not do. Not that’s all that bad but it does lead a person who is used to someone tell him what to do all the time to follow some strange politcal and religious leaders. the Qur'an is extramly specific on certian things. Dress this way. Do this and don’t do that specifically. This person is responsible for this in the family. For an example the father is responsible for the children after they are born. The women unlike American culture are not responsible for the kids feminist cheer here. the Qur’an spells out how a person should live all the time. What about the alternatives, other ways to live. Now the Shiites (one of the two Islam faiths) have the holy war jihad. Now don’t get me wrong the Shiites are not all bad but believing in dieing for your god and being straight to heaven is scary to me. Also scary if your wrong. Me I like the other faith that doesn’t believe in Jihad. But still the religion is too structured. It limits individual thinking. Is this good or bad? Well in my culture this is bad. I like free thinkers. They make me laugh. Christianity used to be like this until it fragmented. Now there is so many types of Christianity that this helps in the check and balance. If you don’t like it find a new Christianity religion. Judaism nice religion but it is mixed up with a racial identity. Should I be more proud of my religion or my people? Who is better a full Jew or someone who is just new to the faith? Wiccians’s deal with superstition to much for me to really like their religion although I do like their love of mother earth. sorry about the sterotypes and please do not ban me!!! To me religion should coexist with my life not dominate my life. But that’s just me. The reson I am posting my thought today is because i was told today that I was going to hell. sigh... I wonder which one? __________________ "enjoy life to the brim but do not spill it" quoted off my tatoo "Iam myself every day."