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rsl12 · 02-20-2004, 10:22 AM

um yatzr...some would argue that killing mice is not that big a deal. I would be one of them--unless you're extinguishing a particular species or something, I'm all for killing mice, even for soybean production. Most vegetarians in the US have no qualms about killing mice and cockroaches. If you see some sort of moral ambiguity in that, then I can't help you.

Benjamin Franklin was a vegetarian for a while, until he one day happened upon some fish that smelled pretty good (emphasis added):

" I believe I have omitted mentioning that in my first Voyage from Boston, being becalm'd off Block Island, our People set about catching Cod & hawl'd up a great many. Hitherto I had stuck to my Resolution of not eating animal Food; and on this Occasion, I consider'd with my Master Tryon, the taking every Fish as a kind of unprovoked Murder, since none of them had or ever could do us any Injury that might justify the Slaughter.--All this seem'd very reasonable.--But I had formerly been a great Lover of Fish, & when this came hot out of the Frying Pan, it smelt admirably well. I balanc'd some time between Principle & inclination: till I recollected, that when the Fish were opened, I saw smaller Fish taken out of their Stomachs:--Then, thought I, if you eat one another, I don't see why we mayn't eat you. So I din'd upon Cod very heartily and continu'd to eat with other People, returning only now & then occasionally to a vegetable Diet. So convenient a thing it is to be a reasonable Creature, since it enables one to find or make a Reason for every thing one has a mind to do.--"

02-20-2004, 10:22 AM	#39 (permalink)
rsl12 On the lam Location: northern va	um yatzr...some would argue that killing mice is not that big a deal. I would be one of them--unless you're extinguishing a particular species or something, I'm all for killing mice, even for soybean production. Most vegetarians in the US have no qualms about killing mice and cockroaches. If you see some sort of moral ambiguity in that, then I can't help you. Benjamin Franklin was a vegetarian for a while, until he one day happened upon some fish that smelled pretty good (emphasis added): " I believe I have omitted mentioning that in my first Voyage from Boston, being becalm'd off Block Island, our People set about catching Cod & hawl'd up a great many. Hitherto I had stuck to my Resolution of not eating animal Food; and on this Occasion, I consider'd with my Master Tryon, the taking every Fish as a kind of unprovoked Murder, since none of them had or ever could do us any Injury that might justify the Slaughter.--All this seem'd very reasonable.--But I had formerly been a great Lover of Fish, & when this came hot out of the Frying Pan, it smelt admirably well. I balanc'd some time between Principle & inclination: till I recollected, that when the Fish were opened, I saw smaller Fish taken out of their Stomachs:--Then, thought I, if you eat one another, I don't see why we mayn't eat you. So I din'd upon Cod very heartily and continu'd to eat with other People, returning only now & then occasionally to a vegetable Diet. So convenient a thing it is to be a reasonable Creature, since it enables one to find or make a Reason for every thing one has a mind to do.--" __________________ oh baby oh baby, i like gravy. Last edited by rsl12; 02-20-2004 at 10:25 AM..