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rsl12 · 02-19-2004, 01:17 PM

I think this is Art's point (and if it's not, consider it mine):

When you consider what Christ went through (imprisonment, crown of thorns, nailed to the cross), it isn't a whole lot of suffering compared to many many other people. Consider what some Christian saints went through--being st. catherine attached to a burning wheel, st. matthew being grilled to death (first on his back, after which he told his torturers "I think i'm done on this side" so they flipped him over), etc etc, for even smaller causes than Jesus'. Whose suffering should we feel more? Whose story is more moving, the one who dies horribly to save billions of souls, or the one who is tortured even worse because he tried to save a few dozen?

so when people say "jesus died for your sins", how can you help but feel that other people have suffered even more for so much less?

02-19-2004, 01:17 PM	#12 (permalink)
rsl12 On the lam Location: northern va	I think this is Art's point (and if it's not, consider it mine): When you consider what Christ went through (imprisonment, crown of thorns, nailed to the cross), it isn't a whole lot of suffering compared to many many other people. Consider what some Christian saints went through--being st. catherine attached to a burning wheel, st. matthew being grilled to death (first on his back, after which he told his torturers "I think i'm done on this side" so they flipped him over), etc etc, for even smaller causes than Jesus'. Whose suffering should we feel more? Whose story is more moving, the one who dies horribly to save billions of souls, or the one who is tortured even worse because he tried to save a few dozen? so when people say "jesus died for your sins", how can you help but feel that other people have suffered even more for so much less? __________________ oh baby oh baby, i like gravy. Last edited by rsl12; 02-19-2004 at 01:23 PM..