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Old 02-16-2004, 09:14 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Originally posted by Strange Famous:

"When I say working class, I mean by that people who's labour overall, is exploited, and people who do not own significant means of production."

Capitalism does not exploit labor. It rewards labor with a wage that is determined in a free market. There is nothing wrong with being part of a "working class" that earns a wage through hard work. That is a lot more noble than being a socialist who would prefer to have government rob the members of society who actually produce value and redistribute their income.

I realize that you are a European and because of your political upbringing and atmosphere you have likely been trained to think like a socialist, but that does not mean that we feel the same way in this country. As other members have stated, socialist find themselves in the minority in this country. It's been my experience that they tend to flock to areas like academia, the media, and politics, but I could be wrong about the last two.

I actually see politics in terms of big and little government. And much to my chagrin, these days Republicans and Democrats both support big government. While you would be frustrated that candidates in this country aren't willing to tax all of your earnings and take over your life through intrusive legislation, I'm frustrated that I can't find a candidate that will cut taxes and play a smaller role in society.

There are basically two types of people politically. Type I just wants the chance to work hard and provide a good life for themselves. They don't want government to interfere in their lives.

Type II wants government to provide things for them, normally through the exploitation of Type I. The top 1% of wage earners in America pay 25% of our taxes. How is that fair? And don't give me, "Oh, they can afford it." That's not the point, they earned that money and it's rightfully theirs.

This country was formed and made great by Type I, it is being ruined by Type II.

Socialism has never and will never work.
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