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Old 02-11-2004, 04:35 AM   #8 (permalink)
onetime2
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Originally posted by shakran
Install CAMERAS? you want to install a camera up every tree 5 miles into the wilderness?

And as I pointed out, ramping up enforcement is not practical. Some parks are more than 90,000 acres. You'd require every national guard soldier in the state to cover a quarter of that. How do you propose to pay for it?




What's your point. It's a wilderness, not a race track.



Uhh. Yes, it is a wonder. Let's see. I drive a racecar on the weekends in the summer for fun. I pay for the public roads just like you do, therefore by your reasoning I should be allowed to drive my Formula Mazda down the interstate.






So semis should be able to drive on the hiking trails? Gimme a break. The ATVers have just as much right to the trails as others as long as they walk like everyone else.
Apparently you missed the part where I said the areas of damage are typically VERY limited. You point to one mud hole and an area of ruts and think they're evidence that it should be banned completely and there are no other options? Please. Install a camera at the points where there are serious issues. A remote camera that's triggered by movement can be bought for about $200, not exactly rocket science there.

As far as enforcement, again, we're talking about limited areas of abuse not the whole 90,000 acres.

Your disdain for those ATVers who have the gall to wake you up at 6am is clearly showing through in your reasoning. Yeah, I think semis should be allowed on hiking trails, that's it. Let's bring in rocket sleds too.

My point about the limited availability of trails was the same as the last statement I made in response to you, no one group has more right to public land than any other. You seem to think that hikers have more right to them than ATVers. Where do Mountain bikers fit in? How about bird watchers?

As far as your assertion about your race car, as you are well aware there are countless motor vehicle rules that your race car would have to abide by. Not the least of which are safety features, emissions, lights, etc. Your example is completely without merit.

If you'd like to start a thread discussing the issues with shared use lands or the reasons why lands should be activity specific, feel free to do it. It's obvious that any further discussion with you here will be completely off the original topic.
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