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Old 02-10-2004, 11:33 PM   #97 (permalink)
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not really, i've known several who were relieved and continue to be relieved that they had an abortion. Also, current studies have been done and they do show a majority of women would choose the same decision they did before. i'll look up the stats when i get a chance if you want. If you don't wanna wait, look at masters and johnston pages for links to current studies

And they should decide whether or not to carry a baby to term. I think this boils down to a fear that men will lose control over child bearing. I mean, we have very little to say on whether or not a girl gets pregnant and i think a lot of people want more control over the whole birth process. I don't, and i don't think we should force our children upon women who do not want them. Abortions are horrible, yes, and that is a life, yes, and if i have a gf or wife that gets pregnant, i would like to be involved in the decision for or against an abortion, but ultimately, it's her body and until that child is no longer connected, he/she will stay under the classification of her body. I just think the whole anti abortion movement is tied to who has control over bringing children into this world and the fact is, women have that ultimate control and men want to take it away.

So yeah, it's a heated subject and yeah, I'll agree that abortions are NASTY, HORRIBLE, VILE, and i wish, unnecessary, but the fact is, they happen and for some, they are the best option, sad as that is. I think the majority of women that have one do so only as a last option and i'll begrudge that there are a few that use them as a backup to birth control and i find that disgusting, but those same people would be the ones who would jam knitting needles into themselves or would starve themselves enough to force an abortion. It's sick and sad, but it's true, and again, I dont' have a vagina, so i should not be able to dictate how a woman goes about her pregnancy unless it is my child and then, at most, i just want my opinion heard in that particular case. I want all women to have the same options and i would prefer to keep knitting needles out of vaginas...I think that will be my new slogan: "No Needles for Vaginas" ...ok, so it's not as catchy as "Keep your Bush out of my bush" (sorry, trying to lighten the mood)

at any rate, i understand your arguments and i will agree almost totally wtih them, BUT, i'm not in that position and i do not think we, as men, should force our views on women who are in whatever position.

Knowledge, help, education, resources will deter FAR more abortions than just "Oops, you can't get one, it's illegal bc we don't want you in control of your body"
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