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Old 02-06-2004, 09:58 AM   #25 (permalink)
Lebell
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Originally posted by Sparhawk
Yeah, so now he's moved on, as he has for the last 15 years. So, where is he again?
Wherever he is ATM, he is not in a country that is openly hosting him. The world learned what will happen to such a country.

And yes, this is a good thing.

If you can't see this, then we will have to agree to disagree.

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Nice false choice there. No, I'm advocating that Bush develop a real spine, as opposed to the faux one you are so in love with, and push Pakistan to accept international inspections and monitoring as a condition for aid, not as a potential result of it.
There was no "false choice". If I had done that, I would have left the "or what" out.

You chose to take this thread to Pakistan, presumably comparing the situation to what the US has already done, so logically, that meant going to war.

Since I couldn't believe that was your position, I left you the out.

I will address your follow-up now.

International inspections of Pakistan might be a good idea, they might not. I will frankly need more information before I formulate my opinion.

So I am not "in love" with Bush's "faux spine" and frankly, I am getting tired of the level of negative sarcasm you are directing at me.

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While we're at it, how about taking another look at the *real* source of the Sept 11 attacks: Saudi Arabia. Without the financial support of Bush's buds, the Crown Prince and his 2,000 Prince-Cousins, would this have ever happened? And what's being done in terms of leverage on the Saudis to prevent it from happening again?

Bush's relations with these two countries stink of the worst kind of hypocracy.
Fine, let's take a look at Saudi Arabia.

They have been cracking down on fundamentalists. Mullahs have been preaching terrorism is bad.

What more do you want?
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