This thread is attempt to stop a threadjacking in progress. I know this post is kind of long winded, so my apologies. Feel free to tell me i'm full of shit too, though.
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...threadid=43016
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Originally posted by Parkhurst
Interesting, however,...
... However while I am totally able to argue and discuss philosophical points I will have to leave the technical duty of such in the hands of others.
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Well, let me just reiterate that my above statements were meant to apply to most philosophy, not all as you insinuate. In fact, were it not for my will to discuss certain things i wouldn't even be attemting to clarify my opinion.
Do you realize what is going on here? Unga starts a thread asking people's opinions on philosophy and i offer mine. Yay, someone is providing their input. Then, other people also offered their opinions. All is well.
What is the first thing you did when you read unga's request for a perspective? You attacked my opinion as "typical of someone who can't think up a worthwhile argument". That's fine, not really helping unga, but ok. So i attempt to refine my opinion, thinking that maybe it was i who misspoke. One of the most important things i said was that i didn't think ALL philosophical discussion was useless, just most of it. Now before you go completely proving my point about intellectual masturbation and the lack of desire for personal growth, let me point out that if not for your desire to be right you probably would have acknowldeged the fact that my opinion was not an attempt to claim that all of philosophy is useless, just that most of it was. But, alas, your whole argument rests upon my complete an utter rejection of all that is good and useful in civil/philosophical discussion. Did you come yet? Whether you know it or not you agree with me to a certain extent. For example, you don't seem to be going out of your way to learn and refine your perspective by actively participating in even one-fourth of the threads currently going on in this philosophy forum? I know your lack of participation isn't due to your inability to argue and discuss philosophical points, you pointed out and have demonstrated that you can do that just fine.
Why then, if ALL philosophical discussion has such intrinsic value(your main point?), value that can only be overlooked by the incapable or the lazy(Me), are you not attempting to grow and learn as much as possible by adding your perspective in every thread in the philosophy forum? Is it because you don't care to discuss the topics of the majority of these threads(my "so what" argument)? Aren't you effectiveley ending your part of all of these arguments with a big fat implied SO WHAT?!?!? by not participating in them?