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Tomservo · 02-03-2004, 10:49 AM

Ustwo- you're wrong. How can you say 99% of trial lawyer money goes to Democrats? Not even Edwards recieved 50% of his cash from lawyers! Your statement is flat-out nonsense. Support it with facts, please.

In other words, "try to have something of substance". Here:

Total Enron Money To Bush’s 1994 Gubernatorial Campaign Committee:

Contributions from Ken and Linda Lay……$47k
Contributions from the Enron PAC …………$20k
Contributions from Other Enron Executives...$79k
Total.... $146,500

Total Enron Money To Ann Richards’ 1994 Gubernatorial Campaign Committee:

Contributions from Ken and Linda Lay……$12.5k
Contributions from the Enron PAC ………….$5k
Contributions from Other Enron Executives....$2k
Total……$19,500

"Enron also pumped an estimated $2 million into the Bush-Cheney campaign. Bush regularly flew from one campaign stop to another aboard Enron jets. Enron was so determined to put Bush in the White House that they sent their top lawyer, former
Secretary of State James A. Baker III, to Florida to orchestrate the stealing of the 2000 presidential election.

“Baker was on the Enron payroll,” McDonald said. “When Bush senior lost his reelection bid in 1992, Lay scooped up both Baker and Commerce Secretary Robert Mosbacher as Enron ‘consultants.’ Bush senior did a Gulf War victory tour of Kuwait in 1993. Baker, Mosbacher and former Lt. Gen. Thomas Kelly, a Gulf War commander, were on the tour to sell Enron contracts to Kuwait.”

Baker arranged lucrative contracts for Enron to rebuild Kuwaiti power plants destroyed during the war. Baker promoted Enron as a global energy corporation. "

"Bush's Army secretary, Thomas White Jr., is another former top Enron executive who also managed to sell his $50-million to $100-million stake in the company well before shares dropped from $90 to 29 cents. Karl Rove, top White House political advisor, had a smaller $250,000 stake that, as far as I can determine, reporters have not asked him about. Neither have they asked Bush's economic advisor, Lawrence B. Lindsey, or Trade Representative Robert B. Zoellick, both of whom went directly from Enron to the White House, if they are now in the ranks of the suddenly poor."

That's something of substance, and it speaks directly to Scipio's point. He didn't say Enron supported *Republicans* he said "a candidate". When referring to the Presidential race, there's no question that GWB is supported by Enron.

Additionally, I never get how much people hate lawyers and cops. They both suck till you NEED them. I have stoner "friends" who consistently refer to cops as "pigs", but the second they get a car stolen, so on, who do they call? If your kid got her insides torn out by a pool drain and the drain manufacturer had settled 12 suits ALREADY, who would you call? Would you just say "Oh, there's the breaks!" Hell, no. So high and mighty...

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Tomservo Crazy Location: Los Angeles, CA	Ustwo- you're wrong. How can you say 99% of trial lawyer money goes to Democrats? Not even Edwards recieved 50% of his cash from lawyers! Your statement is flat-out nonsense. Support it with facts, please. In other words, "try to have something of substance". Here: Total Enron Money To Bush’s 1994 Gubernatorial Campaign Committee: Contributions from Ken and Linda Lay……$47k Contributions from the Enron PAC …………$20k Contributions from Other Enron Executives...$79k Total.... $146,500 Total Enron Money To Ann Richards’ 1994 Gubernatorial Campaign Committee: Contributions from Ken and Linda Lay……$12.5k Contributions from the Enron PAC ………….$5k Contributions from Other Enron Executives....$2k Total……$19,500 "Enron also pumped an estimated $2 million into the Bush-Cheney campaign. Bush regularly flew from one campaign stop to another aboard Enron jets. Enron was so determined to put Bush in the White House that they sent their top lawyer, former Secretary of State James A. Baker III, to Florida to orchestrate the stealing of the 2000 presidential election. “Baker was on the Enron payroll,” McDonald said. “When Bush senior lost his reelection bid in 1992, Lay scooped up both Baker and Commerce Secretary Robert Mosbacher as Enron ‘consultants.’ Bush senior did a Gulf War victory tour of Kuwait in 1993. Baker, Mosbacher and former Lt. Gen. Thomas Kelly, a Gulf War commander, were on the tour to sell Enron contracts to Kuwait.” Baker arranged lucrative contracts for Enron to rebuild Kuwaiti power plants destroyed during the war. Baker promoted Enron as a global energy corporation. " "Bush's Army secretary, Thomas White Jr., is another former top Enron executive who also managed to sell his $50-million to $100-million stake in the company well before shares dropped from $90 to 29 cents. Karl Rove, top White House political advisor, had a smaller $250,000 stake that, as far as I can determine, reporters have not asked him about. Neither have they asked Bush's economic advisor, Lawrence B. Lindsey, or Trade Representative Robert B. Zoellick, both of whom went directly from Enron to the White House, if they are now in the ranks of the suddenly poor." That's something of substance, and it speaks directly to Scipio's point. He didn't say Enron supported Republicans he said "a candidate". When referring to the Presidential race, there's no question that GWB is supported by Enron. Additionally, I never get how much people hate lawyers and cops. They both suck till you NEED them. I have stoner "friends" who consistently refer to cops as "pigs", but the second they get a car stolen, so on, who do they call? If your kid got her insides torn out by a pool drain and the drain manufacturer had settled 12 suits ALREADY, who would you call? Would you just say "Oh, there's the breaks!" Hell, no. So high and mighty... Last edited by Tomservo; 02-03-2004 at 10:54 AM..