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Originally posted by filtherton
Can i borrow this?
My point is that it is quite a jump to go from an article about destruction of property to the patriot act. I really wouldn't have a problem with your post if i could see a point to it other than an attempt to talk shit about people who don't support the patriot act.
What else can we speculate on about these misguided kids?
I bet they're cokeheads. Stupid dopers think its all right to buy drugs but not an suv.
Stupid x-heads can't handle doing drugs but they can handle destroying other people's property.
Let's make a deal. I'll believe whatever i want and you can pretend that anyone who questions your motivations is a crackpot.
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Borrow whatever you want.
I'm no talking shit. I'm pointing out some simple facts.
Just give me a straight yes or no answer. You don't have a problem with someone hating the Patriot act because it "violates their rights", then turn around and vandalize your vehicle because they don't think you should have the right to drive whatever you want? You don't see a point in that?
I left the parts in which I would bet my ass these kids do fall in.
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Originally posted by nanofever
I honestly don't see the connection between the Patriot Act and property damage under the guise of political activism. It seems like you (sixate) are trying to create a strawman from this action and then apply it to the Patriot Act to claim some kind of hipocracy. If you want to defend the Patriot Act, great, but don't try to defend it by the strawman. Inparticular I take issue with the phrase
"The simple fact is these people would be against the Patriot Act, but they feel as though you don't have the right to drive an SUV and spend your money on whatever you want. Are you willing to bet on the fact that they support the Patriot Act? "
and the way you somewhat slyly transition from attempting to explain their (the vandals) beliefs on the Patriot Act to anyone who disagrees with the Act, with this statement
"When people whine and cry about it violating their rights they shouldn't violate other people's rights to spend their money on whatever vehicle they want to drive."
And as you stated earlier "Are you gonna tell me that's a logical thought process?"
In attempting to show that all people who disagree with the Patriot agree with the vandals' actions, you show a lot of bias and the mindset that you are working from, not to mention you have demonstrated that you can pull a sly debate trick *applause.*
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What's the applause for?
Did I say that
all people who disagree with the Patriot Act are vandals? FUCK NO! Read what I said. I said
these people are vandals, and I'd bet they don't support something which they think takes away their rights, but they violate people's rights on a daily basis. You think I'm a hypocrite because you think you know what I said, but you don't think these people are hypocrites? What a joke. The only reason you take issue with anything I said is because it makes perfect sense.