Thread: Ketamine
View Single Post
Old 01-29-2004, 01:09 AM   #17 (permalink)
Johnny Rotten
lost and found
 
Johnny Rotten's Avatar
 
Location: Berkeley
Quote:
Originally posted by ApexgriN
It is not used widely as a pain killer. I'm curious how you came up with that claim?


I didn't come up with it, actually. I just researched beyond the sites that would tell me what I wanted to hear. We often choose our sources without realizing it.

http://www.drugtext.org/sub/pcp1.html
http://www.drugscope.org.uk/druginfo...Cketamine.html
http://www.urban75.com/Drugs/drugketa.html

It is also sold OTC in India and Mexico, although I don't have a link for that handy.


Quote:
Originally posted by ApexgriN
The side effects you speak of were reported by William E White in 1998. He makes some rather great assumptions in coming to these conclusions. I've linked to Erowids response below. You cannot state for a fact that his paper is accurate because of these assumptions. I cannot state for a fact that he is wrong, but the evidence suggests something else is going on. EDIT: Your line should read, "There is currently no way to determine if humans are susceptable to this at all."
White's paper was never completed or proofed, and I would be obviously remiss to base such statements ona single document. I skimmed it. I wouldn't rest a case on it. And I don't need an article to tell me what a disassociative does to the human body. I went to college instead.

http://www.nda.ox.ac.uk/wfsa/html/u04/u04_010.htm
http://www.medsafe.govt.nz/Consumers/cmi/k/Ketalar.htm
http://www.metrohealthanesthesia.com...#psychological

Quote:
Originally posted by ApexgriN
How often you do it is also a factor. Do you give your brain a break? Do you slip into an addicted binge for weeks or months? Responsibility is what keeps you safe. Hell, these rules apply to anything. You could drink water till you died.
Be as that may, K requires a higher level of personal responsibility than most people are willing to apply, compared to other drugs, and is not naturally occurring. You are too casual in your discussion of it.

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=9278
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=2731
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=1179


Quote:
Originally posted by ApexgriN
If you want to talk shit on Ketamine, start an anti-drug thread. This isn't the place for it.
This is the first time you have given any indication of what tone you wanted the thread to take. If you wanted a cheerleading thread, you should have made that clear from the start.
Johnny Rotten is offline  
 

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360