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Old 01-27-2004, 04:08 PM   #48 (permalink)
Mojo_PeiPei
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Originally posted by Johnny Rotten
It's not about offending somene so much as keeping clear the separation between Church and State. I'm not saying I agree with or disagree with this perception. But that's pretty much what the deal's about. "Under God" is viewed by the U.S. Court as being an implicit endorsement of Christianity. To further extrapolate an implied denigration of atheism and polytheism is shakier ground.
1) Seperation of Church and State is not in the constitution, Wall of seperation was only TALKED about in a letter to the Danbury Baptists

http://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/9806/danpre.html

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The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, & in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing.

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.

I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & your religious association, assurances of my high respect & esteem.
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IRONY= conservatives fighting to force people to recite the pledge of allegiance whether or not they believe in the god it alludes to and attempting to force christianity upon all who enter public buildings by way of the ten commandments; but insisting that no one should be forced to hear something that they don't agree with on superbowl sunday.
Whats wrong with mentioning God the creator in the pledge? After all it was through him that all our rights were endowed and on that basis and tradition that our country was founded. Secondly 10 commandments is not solely christian, ignorant people like yourself might not know this but actually it was Jews who established, christians who jumped on the band wagon later with it, and Muslims who hold them as sacred law as well.


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Back on track, do we really have to politicize EVERYTHING, get serious. The last thing I want to hear or see during the superbowl is any form of political rhetoric Pro or Anti Dubya. I just want to watch stupid low brow humor commercials and the Pats get stomped on by Carolina. Is that to much to ask for?
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