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Originally posted by Lebell
No. Kleibold and Harris had no shame.
And that was the problem.
And I did say "when properly used".
Have you never heard, "Have you no shame?"
The key is to tie shame to the bahavior that we want to discourage.
Like having poor study habits or mowing down your classmates in a hail of bullets.
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kleibold and harris had the shame shamed out of them.
I think shame often becomes a teaching tool for someone who doesn't really know how to teach. If i am ashamed because i let myself or my loved ones down because i slacked off, that is fine. I'll learn my lesson.
But if i am ashamed because i believe that i am a moron who lacks value in society because despite the fact that i tried my hardest i wasn't able to get better than a C in most of my classes last quarter that is another thing entirely. Where is the instructive value in that shame?
Now i know you qualified your endorsement of shame by adding "when properly used", but do you really think we can rely on high schools to use shame properly?