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Old 01-24-2004, 01:27 PM   #57 (permalink)
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wilbjammin-

I am not here to persuade you of anything.
I am simply explaining myself, though it may seem unfathomable or confusing. Words can do that.

We have different views and our own ideas of Free Will and Choice, so be it. That is what free will is all about, really- being free to think, believe, and idealize as we wish.

Now, my question for you right now is could you please clarify this:

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Me: What is best? Following your heart, taking the non-selfish, overall feel-good, loving option.


You: There is not a quote I could be more uncomfortable with. I think that many people value power over love.
Are you speaking in terms of reality as most people see it or how you truly think IT IS? What I mean is, Do you think that the world could be in a better shape IF more people, if not all, followed their hearts and made choices revolving around Love? I am speaking of the universal, unconditional Love. Or are you saying that people choose and value power over love, and that's just how it is and it couldn't be any different?
I hope you can clarify that, because I am a bit confused as to where you are coming from.
My truth, what I have felt, and also applied, and by noticing the results in the way I choose, has brought me to realize that choice can be more than human, on a higher conscious level, keeping in mind all things, all options, all possiblities, and all people involved and affected.

And here is an example of choice and outcome that I thouroughly understood:
The show Joan of Arcadia- have you seen it?

This girl has had many encounters with God, who comes in human forms of different kinds, and God asks her to do things.
One time, God asked her to destroy her friend's favorite and best art sculpture right before an art show. For the longest time, neither one of them understood why she ruined it, and the friend was pissed at her for a long timenot speaking to her. She apologized just like crazy and tried to make peace with him, but the friend refused.
Throughout the time they weren't speaking, she discovered that he always made the sculptures for his mother when he was young, but she died. He kept making them as his way of trying to connect with her, and he was really starting to withdraw and become really depressed and in denial, keeping in the pain that he felt. He even stopped making his art.
Another friend told her that the boy's mother commited suicide and that she wrote him a letter before she killed herself. Joan took the extra measure of having her mom go to his place and ask him a favor of just talking with her. He agreed, but he didn't realize that Joan was right behind. Joan told him that she knew of his mother's suicide and the letter. She asked why he hadn't read it yet, and he said that he feared that she wrote that it was his fault for her escape. Joan pleaded him to just read the letter, saying that "it's worse to wonder what it says than knowing what it says".
The next morning he brought the letter over to Joan's house and he had her mother read it to him. In the envelope was a poem, basically saying that he was and always will be her light.
After that, Joan and the boy were friends again and he was happy and smiling. All of that worry and frustration and fear was released.
The outcome of this showed that Joan broke the art sculpture for a reason- that he would soon be released of the pain inside of him. The art was the holding point of all of his pain, and by breaking it, and persistance in speaking with him, soon Joan realized why God suggested to do what seemed to be a horrific, outrageous, morally "wrong" thing to do.

Sometimes it's hard to see why and hard to see what outcomes may happen, but thinking through things will help you understand more. I am by no means saying I am a pro at this, but I apply it as much as possible and with each new choice I make, the reasons become clearer and clearer and the overwhelming sense of Love truly shines through and consumes me, helping me realize that I have made a "higher choice".
 
 

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