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Originally posted by European Son
Apparantly I was nodding to a famous poem about govermental prosecution from WW2. I tried to make the point that saying "I don't care what they allow themselves to do as long as they don't act out on it" leads to a pretty slippery slope. You say that you don't care wether the patriot act CAN be used to fuck people up, as long as it isnt. Pretty naive.
To avoid too much patriot act derail: I also tried to explain that some rights might have to be bent in order to fully protect others. This means that the "right" to own weapons might have to be restricted in order to protect people from themselves and others.
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Thanks for clarifying, but I disagree. Has the Patriot Act been abused? Have you been violated? Has anyone you know been violated?
The right to own weapons is restricted. Not everyone can get a gun legally, but of course that won't stop anyone from being able to get them now will it?