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Originally posted by Mojo_PeiPei
Well if you want to argue "Nature", homosexuality would definently be a dsiadvantage. Gay's don't reproduce, thus they will be eliminated from the gene pool.
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You're not arguing nature, you're arguing natural selection, which in many ways, doesn't apply in the way your trying to apply it. For example, i know plenty of people with gay mothers or fathers. Gay people do reproduce. Gay men can donate sperm, lesbians can use donated sperm. It is feasable for a gay man to father a child through a lesbian woman. Don't say it isn't natural either because if "nature"(in the convenient, personified sense) didn't want us to be able to do it we wouldn't be able to do it.
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from FoolThemAll
Theft for selfish reasons? Lying for selfish reasons? Rape? Murder?
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We're talking about behavior, not the reasoning behind it. It takes only a brief look around this world of ours to find a "moral" justification for murder(war, self-defense), theft(stealing bread to feed the family), and if you want to get purely hypothetical, rape(well, if i didn't rape so and so they said they'd kill five people).