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Originally posted by Mojo_PeiPei
Were Timothy Mcveigh's actions religious? No. Davidians? Not sure whom they are, if your referring to the nuts from Waco, well thats just a horrible attempt at trying to paint christians anywhere near the ballpark of Islamofacists.
Filtherton your christophobia/ willing ignorance to the world around you is astounding.
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Yes, i'm a "christaphobe," i am frightened of jesus christ.
My christophobia?? LOL that's rich.
Perhaps if you had read some of my posts in the philosophy forum you might see that i have attempted to defend certain aspects of christianity from some of the more outspoken athiests on the tfp. I shouldn't even have to address this with you though, since you obviously have no idea what i am about when it comes to religion you have no grounds to make such claims. Sometimes i have to remind myself that grown-ups don't need to use name-calling in their arguments. Perhaps that is a good lesson for all of us.
I'm pretty sure the branch davidians were suffering from a twisted form of chistianity. While obl is no david koresh, he is no mohammed either.
As for mcveigh... He comitted his act of terrorism on the two year aniversary of the massacre at the branch davidian compound. He also had ties to the christian identity movement. The christain identity is "based" on some crazy ass interpretations of the words of jesus christ. They believe that nonwhites are soulless "mud-people". It appears chritianity can be missapropriated too. Maybe this is the christ you were refering to when you called me a "christaphobe".
Maybe i am just being clumsy in all this though.
My point is that you cannot infer the motivations of an entire group of people by the actions of a minority of that group of people. How hard is that to understand?
In comparing islam with christianity i was attempting, apparently misguidedly so, to help you to see the this issue from my perspective in terms which are already familiar to you. That is to say, christianty seems to have a lot in common with islam. There are many christians who are horrible people who do horrible things. Sometimes these people base their actions on misinterpretations of christianity. This doesn't mean that christianity is the root cause of these people's actions. There also are many muslims who do disgusting things in the name of islam who are actually just really fucked up people using islam to attach an air of authority to their misguided power-grabs/need to feel important. These people probably do think they are righteous just as david koresh thought he was righteous, or the church during the spanish inquisition. This doens't mean that islam or christianity are inherently evil, just that its followers are human with human flaws.