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OOOO,
Lurkette steps in with that sexay woman powa!
Anyway, onetime2 and Astrocloud,
You obviously aren't going to agree, and you've obviously stopped listening (so the other believes) so the both of you should step away from the discussion (about a 7 on the civility scale, not to bad, but not perfect) and call it a day.
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