bullzam

Before I begin this thread, let me say that I am a steadfast liberal and having lived in africa and seen the US screwups there from the coldwar take a generally cool view to US intervention, but...

I'd say that now we're in Iraq we're fighting a winning battle because Al Qaeda is using up their continually dwindling resources (albeit rising manpower) to send their operatives to attack us in Iraq. Why? because it is in their doctrine to get us out of the middle east and they think they can publicly emberass us by making us fail. Why are we winning? well because we have a full military in for the long haul and they are running out of space to train. I highly doubt they can force us out of Iraq, this isn't another vietnam. None of this is to say that Iraq is a great american victory at all, I just think that many liberals say NO WAR without actually thinking about both sides and a broader picture. The fact is, security is important. Anyway, I'd like to hear other points on how we're doing because my only source of this information is that I tend to read lots of State Dept. literature back home. As for going into Iraq, I think it showed more than anything a failure by the UN to fulfill any usefullness it had as a world power. otherwise its a mostly bloated organisation that send more money to buy jeeps in sudan than feed starving children or any such noble goal. Anyway, UN reform is another topic, but, all this bein said, I'm ready for attack, go at it...