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Old 01-16-2004, 03:44 PM   #38 (permalink)
Yakk
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What the crux of the matter is, to me at least, is whether we are responsible for our actions.
A very naieve approach to the issue is to claim that as we don't have 'free will' (in the sense described above), we are not responsible for our actions, and hence, should not be punished for shooting someone/robbery/etc..."I wasn't acting out of free will. I was a slave to the laws of physics"
Of course we are responsable for our actions.

Hell, a gun is responsable for shooting someone. If there is a gun that is attached to a tripwire and is shooting passersby, then you destroy or disassemble the aparatus, and prevent the gun from shooting the passersby.

Possibly you attempt to fix the device so that it doesn't kill passersby, or you give it to the berieved people who's friends where killed, or you destroy it. But, people where shot because the gun was there.

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So I guess, we will have to ask again, what is the question we are really looking to answer?
That's your question, not the one everyone else had. =p~

Look, if you want to argue :
Presume we don't have free will, as a matter of arguement. Then, can we still have responsiblity for our actions?

Don't claim we don't have free will and then argue about responsibility. You can talk about "responsibility without free will" even if we do have free will.

Otherwise, you will get people argueing people do have free will, and you claim to be uninterested in that arguement.
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