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Old 01-14-2004, 07:14 PM   #91 (permalink)
filtherton
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It would depend on the 'personal evidence' involved. I would question the premises, the situation, and the circumstances of the claim,etc. .
Okay, well prove to me that your parents love you. Right now, over the internet, with completely rational and non-anecdotal evidence. Good luck.

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God's an unnecessary part of explaining any phenomena. Chance and Coincidence serve as superior explanations to phenomena unexplainable by other means. Consequently, God is an irrational belief.
Emotion isn't all that necesary either. Love? Who needs it? All anybody needs is cold hard reason. I'm sure you argue with your parents and call them irrational because they bear the unnecesary cross of loving you. I'm also sure that you, as the guardian of rational necessity, wouldn't be caught dead having sexual relations for non-procreative reasons.

Let me make a list of other things that are unecessary: art, science, reading, love, computers, coffee, friends, trust, beauty and well, pretty much everything else beside oxygen, water, food, and shelter(depending on your climate).
Pretty much everything that has changed about humanity starting with agriculture has been wholly unecessary.

Geez, that means there are a great many things that humanity takes for granted that aren't necessary.
Yet we continue to do all these things. Why? I'm guessing we do the things we do because they give meaning to an existence which, if you follow logic's directions, appears to be completely meaningless. Now, if your a nihilist(not hard for me to believe at this point) i just have to ask you something. If everything is so meaningless and unecessary why are you even arguing about it?
Finding meaning IS a necessity. Without it you are a robot waiting to die. Spirituality, and even the belief in god, give people meaning. Just like art and love give people meaning.

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Why do we have to go anywhere at all when we die?
So you believe that we just stay in our bodies after we die? Dead people are still there, they're just being unresponsive to the physical world? Sounds pretty rational to me. Do you honestly think that we don't go anywhere after we die or do you have actual thoughts on the matter?

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