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Old 01-14-2004, 04:36 PM   #88 (permalink)
papermachesatan
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Originally posted by filtherton
So what if someone claims to have personal evidence of the existence of a god? Since that evidence may be purely experiential how is it any difference from the "evidence" that you have as to your loved ones' feelings towards you?
It would depend on the 'personal evidence' involved. I would question the premises, the situation, and the circumstances of the claim,etc. .

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I agree though, faith based on rational thought is generally better placed than blind faith. What if i claim that it is possible to believe in the existence of god based purely on the very rational belief that the universe was created? Surely the idea that the universe was created by some sort of force is nothing new to you, why is it so irrational for that force to be sentient? I think it is irrational to label as irrational something which you have no direct or even secondhand knowledge of.
God's an unnecessary part of explaining any phenomena. Chance and Coincidence serve as superior explanations to phenomena unexplainable by other means. Consequently, God is an irrational belief.

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I'm not saying it is accurate, just that when it comes to things that by their very nature can't be proven or disproven it is a waste of time to try and write said thing off as irrational. I'd like to hear your rational, scientific fact-based perspective on the afterlife or lack thereof. Where do you think we go after we die? Let me pre-emptively state that whatever you think is wholly irrational. At least as irrational as believing in some sort of deity.
Why do we have to go anywhere at all when we die?

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So i'm wrong. You're argument is essentially "you can't prove it and it is irrational." My bad. Its still not a very compelling argument. It is very rational to wonder about that which cannot be explained. It is also very rational to make sense of the unknown as best as you can based on your experiences.
How is it irrational to believe in god, even lacking the empirical, quantitative evidence that you seem to need?
See second response in this post.
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