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Old 01-12-2004, 05:12 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Mmmm, Mantus, I see your heart yearns for answers, yet you're not asking any.
I am not trying to be "right", as I am sure you are not either.
I may percieve "omniscience" in a different light than you, which is fine. No one said that omniscience requires the knowledge of experience itself, neither does anyone say that it doesn't require it.
Also, why can't God be omniscient yet not omniscient all at the same time?
In no other humanly way can I interpret what I am saying as plain and simple what I am about to post- try this one, open your mind and see how you interpret & feel about this-----
Here is something that struck me, because its something I always felt deep down- then I read it:

"In the beginning, that which is All There Is is all there was, and there was nothing else. Yet all that is could not know itself- because all that is all there was, and there was nothing else. And so...All That Is...was not. For in the absence of something else, All That Is, is not........
Now All That Is knew it was all there was- but this was not enough, for it could only know its utter magnificence conceptually, not experientially. Yet the experience of itself is that for which it longed, for it wanted to know what it felt like to be so magnificent. Still, this was impossible, because the very term "magnificent" is a relative term. All That Is could not know what it felt like to be magnificent unless that which is not showed up. In the absence of that which is not, that which IS, is not.
Do you understand this?

I think so. Keep going.
Alright.
The one thing that All That Is knew is that there was nothing else. And so it could, and would, neveer know Itself from a different point outside of Itself. Such a point did not exist. Only one reference point existed, and that was the single place within. The Is-Not Is." The Am-Not Am.
Still, the All of Everything chose to know Itself experientially.
This energy- this pure, unseen, unheeard, unobserved, and therefore unknown-by-anyone else energy- chose to experience Itself as the utter magnificence It was. In order to do this, It realized It would have to use a reference point within.
It reasoned, quite correctly, that any portion of Itself would necessarily have to be less that the whole, and that if It thus simply divided Itself into portions, each portion, being less than the whole, could look back on the rest of Itself and see magnificence.
And so All That Is divided Itself- becoming, in one glorious moment, that which Is, and that which is this and that which is that. For the first time, this and that existed, quite apart from each other. And still, both existed simultaneously. As did all that was neither.
Thus, three elements suddenly existed: that which is here. That which is there. And that which is neither here nor there- but which must exist for here and there to exist.
It is the nothing which olds the everything. It is the non-space which holds the space. It is the all which holds the parts...."
-Conversations with God, book 1, pgs. 22-23
 
 

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