Plan9, I must say, that your posts are pure money. (sorry, I just saw "Swingers" and can't quit saying that) Regardless of your personal feelings on this subject, there is no arguing that you know your stuff, and that this is a good thread.
I've always been the guy that's getting some, but in the context of a very serious long term relationship. I don't sell myself as an attractive guy (I'm not) and I've never had an interest in "playing the field" (until recently).
Therefore, your advice is very interesting, and as I've been hitting the bars and such more lately I've had the chance to see these rules used, and I've seen these rules abused.
For it's intended purpose (meeting multiple women with the intent of sex), game like this can help a cat out.
Up until about 1 month ago, I kinda figured that the girl I was with would be the last (I was going to propose this spring), but out of no where that ended, and I'm slowly starting to change my view on sex and dating, so it seems I've found your guide at the perfect time!
I don't really desire to be a "player", per se, but the many of your "lessons" are just good advice for being a good conversationalist, especially with women. Doing things like "nouning" and maintaining control of the situation will help in any situation, even if you're just looking for a female friend, or a serious relationship.
One thing I've learned in my life (I've worked as a semi-professional chef and a "trained sales representative", aka, telemarketer for charities), is that presentation is what sells the product. Of course the "product" here isn't an expertly prepared creme brulee or a yearly sponsorship for the Fraternal Order of Police, it's you. You won't make a first impression with a "super interesting" life and diverse interests. You will make a first impression with your appearance and your openings. Once you've got your foot in the door, you can show your great personality. To continue the gastronomic analogy, it doesn't matter how great that creme brulee looks, if it tastes like swine and boot leather, the person on the receiving end is still going to 86 it. So to use another strange metaphor, there's no use in having a cool facade, if there isn't a nice house behind it.
To boil it all down and skim off the jacked up comparisons:
It's not always about changing what you've got to offer, it's about changing how your offer it.
Just wanted to point out that even the guys who dig the long-term monogamous game can learn a few things from this thread.
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