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Old 01-11-2004, 07:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
wilbjammin
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Freewill is absurd.
All of existence is absurd.

"We are not born for liberty. But determinism likewise is a mistake" - Camus, Notebooks

This doesn't take into account imagination at all.

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A person has no freedom to choose events that influence life.
A person has a great amount of freedom in deciding to how to interpret events that influence life.

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A person appears to have a choice in the knowledge that is assimilated into his mind, but this assumption is false. We can only choose to learn from what is put before us. At first knowledge is acquired instinctively, and forced socially as well as circumstantially. Hence the acquisition of fledgling knowledge is not a choice. Since knowledge acquired by an infant is not a choice the choices that such knowledge will determine in a child is also not a choice. From birth onwards all knowledge is determined though circumstance therefore it is not acquired though freewill.
I'm having some trouble with this one. Experience does have a lot to do with what ideas you have, and how you choose to live your life. But an absolute stranglehold? As metaphorical creatures, this does nothing for my aesthetic persceptions of life.

To say that because of genetics and the interconnectedness of existence we have nothing original and spontaneous to produce is likewise absurd.

Everytime we are placed in a circumstance where we have several options and don't know which one is best, that act of deciding finally is certainly an exercise fo freewill. Not absolute freewill, but certainly of some freewill. As long as the outcome is not already known previously.

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1. Every event has a cause
2. Every cause is also an event
3. Human behavior is an event
The cause and the event can both be self-contained within the individual. I don't see how determinism can explain that away. We are at the mercy of facticity, but not absolutely.

I'm having trouble with "If any event is caused, it is not free"... what determines freedom? An absolute lack of relationship between an event and reason?
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