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Old 01-08-2004, 09:16 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Re: Re: If you thought the courts were bad in your neck of the woods.....

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Originally posted by Sparhawk
This isn't some sort of left-wing argument either. To defeat your enemy, you must first know and understand your enemy. I think some Eastern philosopher said that...
No, its just a poor argument. There are people who gain by keeping these nations in the 7th century mentally, and while its nice to say if they had a western education they wouldn't be this way, its also not necessarily true. I spent the last 5 years with some of the best educated Muslims you will find on the hole planet, they had also spent many years in western schools. They came from Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Kuwait, Pakistan, Egypt, and Iran (from a refugee family, he grew up under Khomeini). None of them were going to be putting on a suicide vest, but almost all of them supported it. The Iranian was the only 'western' one, he was dating a catholic girl, and unlike the others didn't leave classes for daily prayers. He told me the other males were constantly harassing him about his behavior, and finally the males all cornered him (literally) and to his credit he stood up to them and didn't return to the fold, after which they told him not to call himself a Muslim and he was ostracized. Its more then education, its the culture that’s the root cause of this. Its arrogance in its highest form to think that a western education will somehow transform their hearts and minds. The only way they are going to move ahead is with a lot of people kicking and screaming along the way, and a lot of bloodshed.
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