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DEI37 · 01-07-2004, 09:06 PM

Yeah, the design of the car does come from Holden, a GM of Australia company. The reasoning? Simple. Vastly cuts time to production, and most importantly...cost. I saw pics of the CTS-V. That car kicks ass. BMW's M5 test driver went out on the Nurburgring (sp?) road course, and in the first few laps with the car, had already bested the M5's fast lap...and he's familiar with the M5!!! That says something. Having the GTO in the form that they brought it back in is also smart. It's a proven platform. The engine is reliable, and the rest of the car has already had the majority of it's kinks worked out in the Australian marketplace. Sure, a few changes had to be made, but most of them probably come from having to switch the front seat positions and dashboard assemblies. GM did it right. The car looks to be the real deal, and based on the pro's reviews...it's gonna be stiff competition for anything in its class.

Now, for the personal attack on me, silent_jay...get a grip. NASCAR drivers are among the world's top athletes. There is competition in the NASCAR ranks, unlike F1, where a close race has 5 seconds separating first and second. In NASCAR, the entire field of 43 can be separated by that amount of time. That takes skill to drive 170+ mph, 3 wide, 10 deep. And, it's more fun to watch like that. You'll NEVER hear a team order to let a team mate win by pulling over and let him pass. Hell, no. Where I come from, if you want the spot, you don't whine to your "boss" to get your team mate to pull over, and let me by. You go race for it...you WORK for it. Gimme's...what a bunch of pansy asses.

I'll quit. I like this place too much to get really pissed...and that's where I'm headed. G'nite, y'all.

01-07-2004, 09:06 PM	#41 (permalink)
DEI37 Go faster! Location: Wisconsin	Yeah, the design of the car does come from Holden, a GM of Australia company. The reasoning? Simple. Vastly cuts time to production, and most importantly...cost. I saw pics of the CTS-V. That car kicks ass. BMW's M5 test driver went out on the Nurburgring (sp?) road course, and in the first few laps with the car, had already bested the M5's fast lap...and he's familiar with the M5!!! That says something. Having the GTO in the form that they brought it back in is also smart. It's a proven platform. The engine is reliable, and the rest of the car has already had the majority of it's kinks worked out in the Australian marketplace. Sure, a few changes had to be made, but most of them probably come from having to switch the front seat positions and dashboard assemblies. GM did it right. The car looks to be the real deal, and based on the pro's reviews...it's gonna be stiff competition for anything in its class. Now, for the personal attack on me, silent_jay...get a grip. NASCAR drivers are among the world's top athletes. There is competition in the NASCAR ranks, unlike F1, where a close race has 5 seconds separating first and second. In NASCAR, the entire field of 43 can be separated by that amount of time. That takes skill to drive 170+ mph, 3 wide, 10 deep. And, it's more fun to watch like that. You'll NEVER hear a team order to let a team mate win by pulling over and let him pass. Hell, no. Where I come from, if you want the spot, you don't whine to your "boss" to get your team mate to pull over, and let me by. You go race for it...you WORK for it. Gimme's...what a bunch of pansy asses. I'll quit. I like this place too much to get really pissed...and that's where I'm headed. G'nite, y'all. __________________ Generally speaking, if you were to get what you really deserve, you might be unpleasantly surprised.