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Old 01-04-2004, 10:23 PM   #59 (permalink)
Stiltzkin
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I don't know German, but I think Mantus meant to say "Sieg heil! Das feuer Vermin!", which kind of stranslates to "victorious welfare! The fire that is Vermin!", which is militaristic and makes reference to Hitler. Now if you're German or know German, don't bash on me because this info was the best I could gather without knowing a word of German.

Moving on... I think this thread uses the words "him" "he" and "his" too much, I've noticed. Not all children are male . Furthermore, it is hilarious how many of you think that there is a "one size fits all " type of solution for raising kids. News flash: kids are people too. They are different. Some of them will be little shits no matter how good of a parent you are.

Now this is a true story. I have a friend who is known more commonly by his nickname than his real name (I'm sure you knew a few people like that too), so I will just go ahead and use his nickname.

Peeker literally raised himself. He has had his own room and a lock on it since he was born. He doesn't have a good relationship with his mother, father, or brother at all, and has always lived by his own rules. When he was in middle school, he got high about three times with his friends, heh, and that was it. He also went through the alcoholism thing for a while. His mother never snooped on him or anything. In highschool, the business computer programming teacher (bless Mr. Wright's heart, I wonder if he's still alive?) had some old clunkers (computers) lying around, and decided to give them away. Peeker got one, and from then on he went on to teach <i>himself</i> all about computers. He also obtained free internet access on his own from that one that K-mart used to have. What was it called? Bluelight? Anyways, yes he watched porn in his room and did pot and whatever else he wanted. Okay, so all you parents are getting really worried right about now, right? Well, no need. I had him for calculus and he was the only person worthy of checking my work with. I also had him for geometry and precalculus, and same thing there. It was actually good having him around because I was basically surrounded by morons in those classes who didn't know what was going on. He graduated #5 in his class, and earned a butt-load of college credit through taking AP courses and their associated AP tests. He was a far cry from being a loser, and is extremely independent. Why? Because he raised himself. He works part time at BestBuy as a computer technician (I know, whoop-dee-friggin-doo) but he does know a shitload about computer hardware. His mom (only lived with his mom, since his parents divorced, although he doesn't seem to like to talk about that) never had to step in to slap the shit out of him to keep him from being a loser. There is, of course, a downside to all of this. He's one serious prick and hard to get along with, and in fact I'm one of the few people I know that doesn't hate him. He's extremely arrogant, but I must admit that he kind of does have good reason to be that arrogant. He does kick ass, even though it is really hard for me to admit it becaues he can be such a damn asshole sometimes...

Point is, he was always allowed to make his own decisions and he turned out great, he's attending UT (maybe The_Dude knows him [if ya ever read this thread shoot me a PM, The_Dude]), and is on a fast track to success, I'd say. Sometimes I wish my dad had let me live the same way, but oh well.

Now I know that people like him are a semi-rare case, where one's own upbringing turns out successful. Anyone who doesn't fully believe me about Peeker, well, if you want to meet him that badly maybe I can arrange something for ya. I do realize that this may be impossible to believe for some of you, and you have good reason.

Some people-- since kids are people and many parents seem to forget this, I will call them people-- some people just need to be watched and slapped upside the head constantly to keep them in check, while others are perfectly capable of not growing up to be losers without divine intervertion (okay, sorry, bad joke on the "divine intervetion" bit) I feel a bit sorry for you if you can't find yourself agreeing with me, because are all the adults around you exactly the same? No. Neither are kids, you <b>cannot</b> raise them all exactly the same way. So what do you do? Just do whatever you think best, but also know that your solution does <b>not</b> work best in all situations.

So what is my stance on doorlocks for a kid's room? Well, that just depends. I have never in my whole entire life had a room to myself, I have always had to share with my brothers. Right now since we are insanely poor we live in these semi-decent apartments, except that there's no room for me anywhere (the rooms are fairly tiny) so I have to make the living room my bedroom. I actually have to put my mattress down on the floor (which is usually kept in my dad's room against the wall) when I want to go to sleep, and am expected to put it away every morning, so basically I'm the only one in the house that is forced to "make their bed" every single day. The living room has no doors, of course, so privacy is impossible. Since I've been living under these conditions for many, many years, I have been forced to master my stealth skills in order to get any privacy. My privacy is always extremely fast and efficient . I can't waste any time when I get privacy. So yeah, I grew up with almost no privacy for most of my life but I'd have to say I turned out pretty good. Okay, this is probably the longest post in this thread so far, but maybe it is just because I have too much to say on this. I think I'll stop now

EDIT: If you need privacy that badly for masturbating, there is always the bathroom I think when I have kids I'll just be outright honest with them and tell them that if they need to masturbate, just put a "masturbating" sign on their door. I don't see why this would be unhealthy. Good communication with your children is the healthiest thing possible.
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