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Old 01-04-2004, 08:53 AM   #19 (permalink)
Tophat665
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Originally posted by Endymon32
Once again George W. Bush comes through for the working man.
That what you are about to argue may be good for the middle class does not in any way mean that Shrub came through for them. What it means is that the tax cuts to pay off the richest americans for their support actually did put so much money into the economy that some of it slipped through their fingers.

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{Whole lot of truly good news for wealthy folks, and not bad news for he middle class, or is it? More on that anon.}
Yes, the economy is really picking up. Can't argue with that. But is it the tax cuts that did it or was it something else? My contention (unsupported at the moment) is that the Bush economic fiasco actually delayed the recovery.

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What? You mean tax cuts can spur economic growth,
What Poppie Bush called voodoo economics. It's as dead and discredited a theory as Strange Famous's. Why Why Why must folks keep dragging it up?

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...and that increased growth will result in more jobs for the average person?
That's swell, but I only want one job. This economic growth is coming at the expense of more costly healthcare, education, food, energy, insurance (roads deteriorate, driving gets less safe, insurance goes up), and state services ($6 a day to get into a frickin' county swinning pool!?). At this rate, any job growth is going to be sucked up by folks who need more than one job to get by.

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How can this be? Michael Moore told me that the exact opposite was true! I'm so confused!
You had a good argument going until you got there, and then I realized that you must be talking smack if you needed to go there.

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{lengthy Reagan Worship}
George W. Bush is no Ronald Reagan. Hell, he's no Dan Quayle. While those numbers look very convincing, they portray only the plus side of Supply Side econ. The Minus side is a boom and bust cycle that runs out of control and needs to be reined in every couple of years by someone who works for the people instead of the CEOs.

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So, bring on election 2004. I can't wait to see the Democrats trying to explain to voters their previous calls to repeal Bush's tax cuts.
How's about: "Economy looks really swell right now. Most unfortunate you're not going to be able to afford to send your kids to college or any of that snazzy new medical technology they're coming up with. This economy is booming! Half of it is going like gangbusters, the half that makes headlines. And you are paying for it. Your Children will pay for it, and your Grandchildren and their grandchildren will still be paying for it. George W. Bush brought an MBA to the whitehouse and promised to apply modern business methods to government, and boy has he. Just like Ken Lay." You wanted some rhetoric explaining away a booming economy, you got it.

Thanks for documentation, though. I'm not all that good at it, I admit.

Endymon32 and I are both true believers in our respective ideologies (and thanks, Strange Famous, for moving the center under me) so neither of us are going to be convinced by the other, but I hope I have given the rest of you some reasonable doubts about the original post here, and perhaps some folks with a talent for substantiation want to step in at this point.
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