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Strange Famous · 01-03-2004, 12:35 PM

Why will capitalism fail?

For a start, there are many things capitalism cannot do, that we need it to do.

Capitalism cannot protect the environment, in fact capitalism cannot help but pollute the environment in anyway which creates greater profit or greater use of means of production.

The logic of capitalism, we all know, is to make money. If you can save a buck by polluting our country, even if it will cause, for example, global warming that will HUGELY damage the world we live in - they simply CANNOt help it.

If there is an advantage to be had, if the means of production or the cost of production can be made cheaper - then you have to do it, if you dont your competitor will do it and you will go out of business and your staff wil have no jobs. Mr Ford may privately hate global warming, Ford Motors cannot help but pollute this world with as much greenhouse gas as it possibly can to make a profit.

So, in social capitalism, you have the government, and they say "we will fine you if you do this" so there is no longer a profit to be made from polluting - so either you try and do it anyway and dodge the fine, or you dont do it - and it is a 100% economic decision, you do whichever is the best way to make money and make the means of production more efficient... so we say.. is this the best way? Why do we not remove the power of competition, why do we not take away the slavish obedience to the market which these companies have - why do we not have a company that is run BY the people - that makes its decisions democratically, because then we say "well, we can do this and save $5 but it will cause global warming" and of course the people vote "No"

Capitalism, which was so powerful and created huge advances, is now powerless, powerless to protect the environment, powerless to create equality, powerless to manage finite resources, powerless to regulate itself - so we ask, can a state which relies on capitalism be its watchdog, can a state where every government minister sits on the board of big companies make good decisions in the interests of the people?

So far, it is not doing a good enough job i say, in every capitalist country - so we take away the power of enterpruses to make decisions based on the never ending thirst for profit, and we make these decisions democratically as a people.

There are two forces which will destroy capitalism, let us look at them in turn.

The first force is the people itself. people are unhappy, and right now, you could go to an average guy and say "are you a communist" and he would say "no way", but if you asked him "do we need to control these big companies? Do you trust are politicians? Do you want an end to war? Would you like to be paid a fair wage? Would you like a say of what goes on at work?" then the answer changes.

People every day are rejecting the status quo, they are rejecting the corrupt capitalist state, they are rejecting the greed of big business, the helplessness of capitalism to address social issues and the weakness of the state in addressing them. People want change, people want to tear things down, they want to crush the present system, to establish something new, something they can remake from the start, and not make the same mistakes...

People today, right now, want communism, they just do not know the name of it. The revolution is not made by intellectuals or college students, it is made by working people standing up and saying "enough is enough and these are the rights and powers that we demand"

And they will take them.

But capitalism itself is failing. it is failing because the markets are failing. As every resource is plundered, every market flooded, there is nothing to do but to exploit even further, to cut back everything, to constantly make production cheaper and cheaper, for the means of production to be constantly revolutionised...and eventually capitalism competes itself into collapse, capitalism drives all the profit out of the market and creates huge oversupply, then supply crashes and there is too much demand... Capitalism reaches a point where it cannot supply food, medicine, housing, the boom and bust of the market ever wilder, ever more out of control, until finally the market tears itself to pieces.

Either the people pick up the pieces and build a socialist state from them, or they take control before it is too late... one way or the other, capitalism cannot last - because every bust drives it lower and lower and every boom that follows is further and furthr out of control.

01-03-2004, 12:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
Strange Famous follower of the child's crusade?	Why will capitalism fail? For a start, there are many things capitalism cannot do, that we need it to do. Capitalism cannot protect the environment, in fact capitalism cannot help but pollute the environment in anyway which creates greater profit or greater use of means of production. The logic of capitalism, we all know, is to make money. If you can save a buck by polluting our country, even if it will cause, for example, global warming that will HUGELY damage the world we live in - they simply CANNOt help it. If there is an advantage to be had, if the means of production or the cost of production can be made cheaper - then you have to do it, if you dont your competitor will do it and you will go out of business and your staff wil have no jobs. Mr Ford may privately hate global warming, Ford Motors cannot help but pollute this world with as much greenhouse gas as it possibly can to make a profit. So, in social capitalism, you have the government, and they say "we will fine you if you do this" so there is no longer a profit to be made from polluting - so either you try and do it anyway and dodge the fine, or you dont do it - and it is a 100% economic decision, you do whichever is the best way to make money and make the means of production more efficient... so we say.. is this the best way? Why do we not remove the power of competition, why do we not take away the slavish obedience to the market which these companies have - why do we not have a company that is run BY the people - that makes its decisions democratically, because then we say "well, we can do this and save $5 but it will cause global warming" and of course the people vote "No" Capitalism, which was so powerful and created huge advances, is now powerless, powerless to protect the environment, powerless to create equality, powerless to manage finite resources, powerless to regulate itself - so we ask, can a state which relies on capitalism be its watchdog, can a state where every government minister sits on the board of big companies make good decisions in the interests of the people? So far, it is not doing a good enough job i say, in every capitalist country - so we take away the power of enterpruses to make decisions based on the never ending thirst for profit, and we make these decisions democratically as a people. There are two forces which will destroy capitalism, let us look at them in turn. The first force is the people itself. people are unhappy, and right now, you could go to an average guy and say "are you a communist" and he would say "no way", but if you asked him "do we need to control these big companies? Do you trust are politicians? Do you want an end to war? Would you like to be paid a fair wage? Would you like a say of what goes on at work?" then the answer changes. People every day are rejecting the status quo, they are rejecting the corrupt capitalist state, they are rejecting the greed of big business, the helplessness of capitalism to address social issues and the weakness of the state in addressing them. People want change, people want to tear things down, they want to crush the present system, to establish something new, something they can remake from the start, and not make the same mistakes... People today, right now, want communism, they just do not know the name of it. The revolution is not made by intellectuals or college students, it is made by working people standing up and saying "enough is enough and these are the rights and powers that we demand" And they will take them. But capitalism itself is failing. it is failing because the markets are failing. As every resource is plundered, every market flooded, there is nothing to do but to exploit even further, to cut back everything, to constantly make production cheaper and cheaper, for the means of production to be constantly revolutionised...and eventually capitalism competes itself into collapse, capitalism drives all the profit out of the market and creates huge oversupply, then supply crashes and there is too much demand... Capitalism reaches a point where it cannot supply food, medicine, housing, the boom and bust of the market ever wilder, ever more out of control, until finally the market tears itself to pieces. Either the people pick up the pieces and build a socialist state from them, or they take control before it is too late... one way or the other, capitalism cannot last - because every bust drives it lower and lower and every boom that follows is further and furthr out of control. __________________ "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas