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KellyC · 12-30-2003, 03:39 PM

simply put:

I dont need God in my life. I see some people (does not apply to all) believing in God because they need some sort of guidence in their life, how to live a good life, be a good person, etc.... Since I already have a good idea on how to be a good person and lead a good life, God is not much help to me. This may sound arrogant, but oh well...
Thats just my main arguement, there are more reasons but i'll post more when I've thought them through.
Edit:
I've also hated the idea of confession. If you commited a "sin" then you have to confess, at least once a year. I used to do it up until i was 10, then my parents stop making me and i stopped doing it. The idea that you have confess to a priest, then he tells you to recite 50 Hail Marry, or some shit like that then you are forgiven is stupid. Reciting those graces does not make the sin go away, the sin is still there. So why bother? A better to repent for your sins would be to help others. At least thats what I think. Like Ben Franklin said "Serving God is doing good to men, pray is thought an easier service, therefore, more generaly chosen." (hope thats the exact words)
Then theres the part about the priest being the middle-guy between me and God. I was raised to believe that God is everwhere so I can just "communicate" to God whenever, where ever, thus, the need to talk to the priest and then he'll relay the message to God is also stupid.
The idea of heaven and hell seems absurd, too. Somewhere in the past, i was told that no matter how good you are, theres still a chance that you might not get into heaven, but of course theres always a 100% chance that you'll go to hell when you are bad. That, I find hard to swallow...so I didn't.

My dad told us( me and sibblings) that the idea of heaven and hell were made up by the church to scare people back in the middle age. Can any one varify this? He used to study to become a priest when he was young but got drafted for war so i'm sure that he is reliable. But still, i'd like to know more about it.
I've also try to date the words "hell" , "heaven" and "sin" but can only go as far as before 12th century, can any one help me find the exact date of those words? Many thanks in advance.

12-30-2003, 03:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
KellyC Comment or else!! Location: Home sweet home	simply put: I dont need God in my life. I see some people (does not apply to all) believing in God because they need some sort of guidence in their life, how to live a good life, be a good person, etc.... Since I already have a good idea on how to be a good person and lead a good life, God is not much help to me. This may sound arrogant, but oh well... Thats just my main arguement, there are more reasons but i'll post more when I've thought them through. Edit: I've also hated the idea of confession. If you commited a "sin" then you have to confess, at least once a year. I used to do it up until i was 10, then my parents stop making me and i stopped doing it. The idea that you have confess to a priest, then he tells you to recite 50 Hail Marry, or some shit like that then you are forgiven is stupid. Reciting those graces does not make the sin go away, the sin is still there. So why bother? A better to repent for your sins would be to help others. At least thats what I think. Like Ben Franklin said "Serving God is doing good to men, pray is thought an easier service, therefore, more generaly chosen." (hope thats the exact words) Then theres the part about the priest being the middle-guy between me and God. I was raised to believe that God is everwhere so I can just "communicate" to God whenever, where ever, thus, the need to talk to the priest and then he'll relay the message to God is also stupid. The idea of heaven and hell seems absurd, too. Somewhere in the past, i was told that no matter how good you are, theres still a chance that you might not get into heaven, but of course theres always a 100% chance that you'll go to hell when you are bad. That, I find hard to swallow...so I didn't. My dad told us( me and sibblings) that the idea of heaven and hell were made up by the church to scare people back in the middle age. Can any one varify this? He used to study to become a priest when he was young but got drafted for war so i'm sure that he is reliable. But still, i'd like to know more about it. I've also try to date the words "hell" , "heaven" and "sin" but can only go as far as before 12th century, can any one help me find the exact date of those words? Many thanks in advance. __________________ Him: Ok, I have to ask, what do you believe? Me: Shit happens. Last edited by KellyC; 01-02-2004 at 04:05 AM..