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Originally posted by Superbelt
We didn't give the same dollar value in weapons to Saddam. A MiG is worth much much more than a strain of anthrax.
But in terms of devestation and what Saddam used to brutally kill people with, we are the main culprit.
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You can't honestly believe that. Without the conventional army in place, Saddam could not terrorize a country of greater than 25 million people. The invasion of Kuwait was not possible with only the chemicals we sold him, after all. In terms of devastation and what Saddam used to brutally kill people with, his army cleared out far more than WMD. All bastards, yes, but a fallacy to claim that we are more culpable than France, Germany, or Russia. I will take equally culpable (all sins are equal), but not more.
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US officials say there may be as many as 260 mass graves in Iraq, containing the bodies of at least 300,000 people...
"We believe, based on what Iraqis have reported to us, that there are 300,000 dead and that's the lower end of the estimates," she said.
MAJOR CRIMES
1983: attacks on Kurds
1986-1988: chemical weapons attacks on Kurds
1991: crushing of a southern Shia revolt
1991: crushing of Kurdish insurrection
"We have found mass graves of women and children, with bullet holes in their heads and we have found mass graves of husbands and fathers out in the desert where they were buried," Mr Hodgkinson told the conference.
"We met survivors who crawled out of mass graves after being buried alive. We met with families whose loved ones did not escape."
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3253783.stm)
The attacks on the Kurds (note chemical weapons are directly addressed), the crushing of revolts -- all done with conventional weapons, with a large state army. The bullet holes in their heads came from Saddam's state army. The artillery and missiles delivering "our" WMD must be from a (conventional) state army as well. 40,000 is horrific. 300,000, equally horrific. Or maybe more horrific? Is it possible?
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Originally posted by Superbelt
But all I care about is America, because this is my country. And this is the one I can help change directly. We gave weapons knowingly, we gave them the tools to kill hundreds of thousands.
That's what I really care about.
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I suppose you mean to say we were culpable in arming Saddam, and thus we should not have liberated Iraq.
-- Alvin