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Gimli · 12-29-2003, 10:13 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by charliex
[B]You have to be a microsoft certified systems OEM to have the right to attach COA stickers, which you have to obtain from them or a licensed distributor, otherwise you are selling illegal versions on, and some poor sucker who runs a business using them might get caught out, it happens all the time. This is a very simple procedure and any valid OEM can apply for it.

Its not a legal license, a COA is not a software license, thats why its called a COA.
As for the cut, i doubt any of that money is going to MS

Charliex,

I do thank you for your input. It has given me much to ponder. As far as absolute right and wrong, you seem to have made a most clear argument, and your implied experience seems to be sound in this matter.

I chose not to argue this point at all. I will defer to your assumed knowledge in this cesspool.

So, please weigh in on my perceived transgressions:
I have built a dozen or so machines with COA holograms on the basis of charity. All have been activated with no problem. All work fine after more than a year. No stormtroopers. None for businesses. Mostly for churches.

My understanding was that Microsoft's "activation" of these, well, numbers/stickers/holograms was their complicit acceptance of said hologram purchases.

I'm sensing enough legalese in the websight you posted to cofuse anyone. I didn't see anything about needing to be a Certified Microsoft System OEM on that page, which I assume is just paying them a big fee.

Don't take my post as a challenge, I love learning from the learned as much as anyone. Basically, my point is, from trial and error, I've installed XP with $55 and a hologram several times. Home users. I don't think I'm going to lose any sleep over it either way. It works. Without the "activation" clause, Win98 spread faster than a virus.

And my questioning of your *asterisks* was more pointed to the fact that most asterisks have a subversive or hidden meaning. Mere emphasis noted.

12-29-2003, 10:13 PM	#15 (permalink)
Gimli Loser	[QUOTE]Originally posted by charliex [B]You have to be a microsoft certified systems OEM to have the right to attach COA stickers, which you have to obtain from them or a licensed distributor, otherwise you are selling illegal versions on, and some poor sucker who runs a business using them might get caught out, it happens all the time. This is a very simple procedure and any valid OEM can apply for it. Its not a legal license, a COA is not a software license, thats why its called a COA. As for the cut, i doubt any of that money is going to MS Charliex, I do thank you for your input. It has given me much to ponder. As far as absolute right and wrong, you seem to have made a most clear argument, and your implied experience seems to be sound in this matter. I chose not to argue this point at all. I will defer to your assumed knowledge in this cesspool. So, please weigh in on my perceived transgressions: I have built a dozen or so machines with COA holograms on the basis of charity. All have been activated with no problem. All work fine after more than a year. No stormtroopers. None for businesses. Mostly for churches. My understanding was that Microsoft's "activation" of these, well, numbers/stickers/holograms was their complicit acceptance of said hologram purchases. I'm sensing enough legalese in the websight you posted to cofuse anyone. I didn't see anything about needing to be a Certified Microsoft System OEM on that page, which I assume is just paying them a big fee. Don't take my post as a challenge, I love learning from the learned as much as anyone. Basically, my point is, from trial and error, I've installed XP with $55 and a hologram several times. Home users. I don't think I'm going to lose any sleep over it either way. It works. Without the "activation" clause, Win98 spread faster than a virus. And my questioning of your asterisks was more pointed to the fact that most asterisks have a subversive or hidden meaning. Mere emphasis noted.