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Old 12-28-2003, 05:02 PM   #55 (permalink)
Endymon32
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Originally posted by Strange Famous
I hope it will not be considered a personal attack to say that I do not agree with your analogy, and also find it to be very insensitive.

Its insesitive to whom, the rapist?
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What is being said is that ever since at least the end of WWII, throughtout the cold war and onwards, America has behaved in a way in its foriegn policy that has created many many enemies.
And look at the enemies we made, the Soviet Union, Communist China, North Korea, Castro, Saddam, Iran, Looks like we are picking the right kind of person to be enemies with. Why did France, England, Iceland not make that list? Cause they respect live, freedom and other nations.
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Every innocent civilian that is gunned down in Iraq creates tomorrow's suicide bombers, not Islam - which as a religion is more peaceful and tolerant that Christianity. Bin Laden may well be a maniac, he certainly preaches hate, but his message of hate only reaches people because of the damage done to them by corrupt governments and intolerable social conditions.
Acutally you are wrong again. The Madrassas teach hatred, and chanting Koranic Law. Not much else. In Iraq, were teachers pay has increased 12 times since the invasion, more and more teachers will take the job. Under the democratic leadership that over 80% of that nation now has, and 99% of the schools are opened ( more than were when Saddam was in charge) are TEACHING again. Not brainwashing. When those properly educated childred get nice jobs, and eat nice food, and see how life is pretty good since the Evil Americans came it, I seriously doubt they will be killing for allah anytime soon. If you are correct why does two thirds of Iran WANT American intervention? And if you think that ISlam was more peaceful than Christianity, you are laughably wrong. Your ignorance on topics you talk about is embarressing. Mohammad himself was a warrior that attacked caravans for fun, rape and profit. Very peaceful indeed.

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America did not bomb the WTC itself, nor did it ask anyone else to do so, but by attacking, undermining, and intimidating other cultures and countries, it created an environment in which it was more likely to be struck down.
Umm you have any proof of this? O, look who I am asking for proof. Sorry, carry on ranting.

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I doubt any of the office workers killed in the WTC deserved to die anymore than the average Iraqi hit by a stray American bomb or a panicky bullet fired in the wrong direction (not to mention the occasional rapes, murders and muggings, which ALL occupying forces carry out on foriegn soil)
I know, no civillian deserves to die, but since you are so smart, you can tell me your plan to stop the 100,000 killings per year in Iraq, while France, CHina, Russia, and Germany were willing to by pass UN resolutions and continue to enable Saddam? I thought you didnt have a plan. All your suggestions would do is allow 100,000 more people to die each year. I thought you cared about the Iraqis, when your stance clearly shows you just are just the opposite.

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You have to have understanding of basic facts, if you blow up medicine factories in Africa, if you bomb civilians all over the world because you dont like their governments, if you undermine elected governments everywhere, carry our murders, and everything else the CIA does... you create a wave of hatrid that will retaliate, however strong you are.
You have to realsie that for 50 years, the very peopel you champion, the communists, were aggressively arming and taking over nations like a fat man eating candies. While most of the world was content to let this happen, the US took the hard stance and halted communist expansion. As you know, communistm has claimed the lives of 125 million people this century alone. So the actions taken by the US stopped this monsterous spread of an idealogy worse than Nazism. You can, and will, choose to ignore this, but the fact remains, that US forgein police over the past 50 years stopped the deadliest threat to mankind since the Black Plauge. And people like you would rather they didnt.

DOnt bother to thank us, I know you wont.

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